NDSU vs Ducks

[QB11SD]

It is quite subjective I will grant you that. It is no less real. I can’t explain why NDSU has the winning record that it has in any other way. JMU has an athletic budget that is something like twice what NDSU has. Football alone is like 5x I believe. They enjoy a recruiting area that is replete with outstanding athletes within easy distance of their school and they are also able to attract drop downs from FBS programs in the vicinity. Yet they have lost two of three to NDSU and the one they did win was against an NDSU defense that was ravaged with injury to KEY players. Plus JMU did have an all world team that year for FCS. Perhaps similar to what you all feel you have in your best suite of athletes ever.

On the day of the game all those 3, 4, 5 star athletes on the Oregon sideline are going to be feeling they are entitled to win that game. They are supremely confident. After all everybody has been telling them are the best that ever was. Their coaches will warn them against this. Their parents will warn them. Their pastor/priest will warn them. But they are 18-22 year olds. They will have to learn the hard way.

On the other side of the field those zero star misfits who are an inch too short, 0.3 seconds too slow and 15 lbs underweight are just going to be feeling under appreciated by everyone but their family at NDSU. They are going to have a chip and the training, conditioning and coaching to leverage that chip.

Once the ball is kicked the Ducks are going to find that they are not in a game with Montana. They are in a game with Wisconsin. Or something that looks like it. Those too short, too light slowpokes from flyover country are just fast, long and quick enough. Doubt starts to creep in. It’s poisonous. If your team lacks the depth of culture that true champions possess then by the end of the half we will see player scolding player, coach denigrating player etc. None of this will be evident on the NDSU sideline no matter the game condition.

For Oregon to win this game for certain they are going to have to hang a 21 pt advantage on NDSU within the first fifteen. If they can’t do that then this thing is a toss up. You heard it here.

Regardless this game is going to be so much closer than the typical Oregon players feel subconsciously that the damage to that psyche will be inflicted either way. With that injury there is a near zero chance that Oregon will win the following game should they prevail in this one.

Who knows how good the defending Big-12 Champions could have been had they not lost to a lowly FCS foe. Or the 13th ranked Iowa Hawkeyes. They were not the same team psychologically by the time that FG went through those uprights at Kinnick. Never right in the head again.


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This post was great and I love how passionate you and the NDSU fanbase are and how much you believe that any talent or skill deficiency can be overcame with heart. In the past it’s been true for you and maybe it will be in September. However your entire point isn’t measurable and you’re making a lot of assumptions about Oregon, the players & the staff and their mental toughness (lack their of) and that we won’t be excited to play a home opener. I would not buy stock in that possibility this is a very strong culture and a program that has had a rapid ascent and is hungry for more than 12-2 and a Rose Bowl.

Iowa is good for a one off team every 20 years like the 2015 team that got ran out of the building by a Stanford team we beat. Year in and year out they aren’t even close to what Oregon has built through talent acquisition and development since Coach Mario Cristobal took over.

Unlike Iowa Oregon doesn’t run an antiquated offense and have holes all over the roster. You’re going to have to score with us and do it against a top 10 FBS defense.


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[Christopher Moen]

A few articles that pretty much sum up what we Bison fans know about the star/blue-chip recruiting system is - flawed due to that most the of the country's players are not really evaluated unless they come from certain parts of the country.

https://www.bannersociety.com/2020/2...ruits-by-state

https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/8...map-where-from

[DuckDuckGriz]

Oregon is no ETSU 😂

Wow I have been sleeping on the Bucs

A program on the rise

[CAS4127]

This post was great and I love how passionate you and the NDSU fanbase are and how much you believe that any talent or skill deficiency can be overcame with heart. In the past it’s been true for you and maybe it will be in September. However your entire point isn’t measurable and you’re making a lot of assumptions about Oregon, the players & the staff and their mental toughness (lack their of) and that we won’t be excited to play a home opener. I would not buy stock in that possibility this is a very strong culture and a program that has had a rapid ascent and is hungry for more than 12-2 and a Rose Bowl.

Iowa is good for a one off team every 20 years like the 2015 team that got ran out of the building by a Stanford team we beat. Year in and year out they aren’t even close to what Oregon has built through talent acquisition and development since Coach Mario Cristobal took over.

Unlike Iowa Oregon doesn’t run an antiquated offense and have holes all over the roster. You’re going to have to score with us and do it against a top 10 FBS defense.


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But one of yours posted last evening that Moorhead runs a west Coast-type offense, which, in these days/ages, is antiquated. Which way is it.

And, just to point out, lots of assumptions and presumptions in your above post too!!

Do you [emoji102] see that?


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[ndsubison1]

In regards to Iowa and how much that really indicates: based on recruiting and what Duck fans are pointing out, they really may be on the verge of something special and NDSU might be facing a juggernaut. If the Ducks are like last year, then they are very good but sorry I’m just not that intimidated. Reality is that the 2016 Iowa team was a good team. Do they have Oregon’s history? No, and that is irrelevant. If it were possible to play 2016 Iowa vs 2019 Oregon an Iowa victory wouldn’t be at all surprising.

Id take Iowas OL that year over next years Ducks, but Oregons skill guys will be faster and more athletic. Plus very good secondary. We might actually try to make this a slow down, grind it out game.

[Vet70]

This post was great and I love how passionate you and the NDSU fanbase are and how much you believe that any talent or skill deficiency can be overcame with heart. In the past it’s been true for you and maybe it will be in September. However your entire point isn’t measurable and you’re making a lot of assumptions about Oregon, the players & the staff and their mental toughness (lack their of) and that we won’t be excited to play a home opener. I would not buy stock in that possibility this is a very strong culture and a program that has had a rapid ascent and is hungry for more than 12-2 and a Rose Bowl.

Iowa is good for a one off team every 20 years like the 2015 team that got ran out of the building by a Stanford team we beat. Year in and year out they aren’t even close to what Oregon has built through talent acquisition and development since Coach Mario Cristobal took over.

Unlike Iowa Oregon doesn’t run an antiquated offense and have holes all over the roster. You’re going to have to score with us and do it against a top 10 FBS defense.


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Personally given the disparity in talent I don't think we have a chance in hell. There is the possibility that you might get a good game anyway because the players will go out there and expect to win.

[TAILG8R]

I’d assume there are some prospects the NDSU staff pursue and would really like that choose MAC or Go5 schools over the Bison. If you were at that higher level wouldn’t you be able to win those battles and upgrade the talent pool?


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I'm guessing there are some but the Bison do routinely beat MAC and G5 schools for kids. It's even become more common for them to beat P5 schools for a kid or two.

So I guess my point is that these kids want to come here because of tradition, a winning one, and championships(16). If our goal as an FBS team is to play in the Dove Men's Care bowl against some crappy Sun Belt team would those same kids come? I don't think they do.

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[bisonduck]

Uncharted compared to what?

(Insert some sort of emoji that has my brain blowing up and yours getting some extraterrestrial intelligence).

I’ll future bet here: Ducks will not win the CFPs next year. I’m in at $1000. You?






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We could be worlds better and not win the CFP.

Oregon hit a grand slam with the 2019 class. The hit rate on good players and instant impact players was bar none the best we’ve had. An off-season of training just has me giddy. Thibodeaux had never seen a weight room before coming.

He’s going to be unblockable...truly a nightmare. I could go down the list.

[CAS4127]

I'm guessing there are some but the Bison do routinely beat MAC and G5 schools for kids. It's even become more common for them to beat P5 schools for a kid or two.

So I guess my point is that these kids want to come here because of tradition, a winning one, and championships(16). If our goal as an FBS team is to play in the Dove Men's Care bowl against some crappy Sun Belt team would those same kids come? I don't think they do.

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These Duck fans don’t understand tradition in its meaningful way.

Oregon football only became relevant because of Nike money. They didn’t earn relevancy, they got it paid for, which is the exact opposite of what we have done here at NDSU. We built a program and monetary support followed. Oregon got money, and a team and support was resultantly bought and paid for.


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[ndsubison1]

Wow I have been sleeping on the Bucs

A program on the rise

Would love to see UO get a 3 seed, we get a 14 and play ya in Spokane