NDSU to AAC prepare theyself.

[BigHorns]

They did publicly reject them. However, it wasn't about geography. It was about money. Geography obviously plays a role in money but if the money works, they would add them.

Yes, its about money, but you have the equation reversed.

In the P4 conferences, USC and UCLA add enough value to media contracts to make them a worthwhile add for the B1G.
The money involved also makes the travel workable.

In the G5 conferences, even OSU/WSU don't change the media money enough to matter. NDSU is not going to add more than those 2 would.

[56BISON73]

SMU nagged their way into the ACC.

If you want to move up you need to be in the discussion and forcing yourself into the discussion is a great start.

Dude did you really post this?????

[56BISON73]

I want NDSU to provide the public with all the details that show how much effort they made to get an FBS invite. Can't just sit there and wait for an invite. What little NDSU has provided to date doesn't make it seem like they (NDSU) tried very hard.

Instead of blowing your horn hear where they cant hear you why dont you ask them?

[TAILG8R]

I don't think it's totally crazy to think a West division of CUSA could include NDSU. If you remove all the East teams from the map then NDSU aligns better(still not great).

It would almost be a no brainer for CUSA IF(big IF) they were willing to add a football only member to the West division. And here we go again on football only membership in the FBS.

Yes I have heard, read and puked out all the things about all the reason this wouldn't work. I'm just saying if you look only at the West schools, it COULD work.


Also, what happened to the Shockers starting football again?

[56BISON73]

LOL, says the guy with 14 posts. Is this one of PL's buddies? Maybe Pat Simmers?

What an infantile post. The number of posting is now a benchmark of credibility? If that were to be true Lakes word would be gold but its obviously that his postings have no credence.

[BigLakeBison]

Yes, its about money, but you have the equation reversed.

In the P4 conferences, USC and UCLA add enough value to media contracts to make them a worthwhile add for the B1G.
The money involved also makes the travel workable.

In the G5 conferences, even OSU/WSU don't change the media money enough to matter. NDSU is not going to add more than those 2 would.

The only money number that matters is "margin". NDSU doesn't have to add more than OSU/WSU if they are asking for less. The reality is that OSU/WSU weren't going to just be a "normal" member of those two conferences given where they were coming from and the other options that they were also pursuing. If they were desperate enough, they could have made the numbers work for the AAC or SBC to take them. They weren't/aren't desperate enough.

Waiting for an MWC/AAC invite is absolutely ridiculous. That isn't happening anytime soon, barring the PAC2 finding a way to pay the $100 million + worth of buyouts required. The only way I could even remotely support that idea is if the NDSU leadership capped FCS football spending and made significant investments in the BB programs while working feverishly behind the scenes to put ourselves in the conversation for an add to the MWC/AAC down the road. At least in that scenario it would seem like we were utilizing the resources spent on Athletics to gain the most ROI as far as national exposure. However, all current evidence points to them doubling down on outspending the 6-8 other schools in the FCS who put even a modicum of energy and resources into football.

[TAILG8R]

Another questions, no matter who CUSA adds to the West which of these three are going to be asked to play in the West division if that is their goal of getting to 12?

JSU
WKU
MTSU

[BigLakeBison]

Another questions, no matter who CUSA adds to the West which of these three are going to be asked to play in the West division if that is their goal of getting to 12?

JSU
WKU
MTSU

Look at a map! Can't you tell how much thought and effort CUSA has put into planning out their geographic footprint!

[Bisonator98]

I will humbly disagree. If you want FBS, you will need to start where you can start... if it is the MAC, so be it. Plenty of teams have moved on once they have gotten started in an FBS conference. UCF is a great example, and everyone's favorite JMU is handling themselves the same way...get to the party, play your asses off, then leave with a date that is better looking than the one you brought.

This. So much this. Remember when the Sunbelt was the laughing stock of G5 conferences until App St and GSU moved there? NDSU and SDSU needs to find someway some how to get a seat at the table. They'd run CUSA or the MAC day 1 and add a ton of cred to either of those conferences instantly. Wouldn't be shocked if they had a B12 invite after a few years wrecking shit along the way.

[BigHorns]

I don't think it's totally crazy to think a West division of CUSA could include NDSU. If you remove all the East teams from the map then NDSU aligns better(still not great).

It is a bit crazy, for reasons beyond the conference being garbage.

1) they aren't going to ditch the eastern half of that conference.
2) schools like SHSU can't even afford to fix their stadium yet and bring it up to FBS standards. They (and others) don't have funds to spare for additional travel. In the end, travel costs money, and G5 schools prefer less travel. This is why Tarleton is in the conversation.

We actually are in reasonable proximity to MWC given their current schools and existing travel, and would fit nicely into that conference.