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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I haven't spent more than 3 consecutive days in Fargo in well over a decade, and I think, at this time, moving up is not the correct thing for NDSU Football.

    The juice isn't worth the squeeze at the next level in the current structure. All the benefits would go to administrators and none to the program.

    Jesus Christ. After we QUAD, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STAYING? We are not amongst our peers anymore. Don't we want a new dream and challenge? Why the hell cannot NDSU be a power in BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL in 30 years??? Well, it starts with moving up and accepting the challenge of winning a non BIG 5 conference and going from there.

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    Default Re: A win streak with no pressure attached to it?

    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Not seeing any reason to aggravate people (including me) by letting you turn every thread in the "The FCS is beneath me and everything NDSU accomplishes is worthless and let me tell you for the 1000th time why" board especially seeing as how you have a thread where you can go for that.

    I'm sorry you feel that way about NDSU football. It's too bad you can't enjoy NDSU's success. I suggest you find an FBS board.
    NDSU is going to rewrite the history books when we QUAD. I and El Chapo and others are enjoying the success. But seriously, don't you want the program and university to challenge itself? Don't you want NDSU to play the BEST TEAMS in the country? Are not you tired of NDSU being the best small time program in the country? There is no reason why NDSU cannot be a top 20 college football program within thirty years. Let's stop with "the cannot do" attitude." Same bullshit that was spoken by the D 2 proponents ten years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongman View Post
    Jesus Christ. After we QUAD, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STAYING? We are not amongst our peers anymore. Don't we want a new dream and challenge? Why the hell cannot NDSU be a power in BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL in 30 years??? Well, it starts with moving up and accepting the challenge of winning a non BIG 5 conference and going from there.
    Wanting something is not sufficient. The conditions have to be right in order to make it work.

    Even if there is really no point in staying (which I'm not willing to grant) you've still got to have someplace better to go to. That place probably doesn't exist at the moment and the path to get there certainly does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongman View Post
    NDSU is going to rewrite the history books when we QUAD. I and El Chapo and others are enjoying the success. But seriously, don't you want the program and university to challenge itself? Don't you want NDSU to play the BEST TEAMS in the country? Are not you tired of NDSU being the best small time program in the country? There is no reason why NDSU cannot be a top 20 college football program within thirty years. Let's stop with "the cannot do" attitude." Same bullshit that was spoken by the D 2 proponents ten years ago.
    This is simply false. 10 years ago there were absolutely no reason to stay in D-II, we couldn't spend the money we had, the only question was whether we could raise enough to compete at the next level. There was a viable path for the transition, the University did their diligence and decided we could raise the money, and we have.

    I don't think that any of those things are true today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongman View Post
    NDSU is going to rewrite the history books when we QUAD. I and El Chapo and others are enjoying the success. But seriously, don't you want the program and university to challenge itself? Don't you want NDSU to play the BEST TEAMS in the country? Are not you tired of NDSU being the best small time program in the country? There is no reason why NDSU cannot be a top 20 college football program within thirty years. Let's stop with "the cannot do" attitude." Same bullshit that was spoken by the D 2 proponents ten years ago.
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    Default Re: A new and better FBS thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Strongman View Post
    Jesus Christ. After we QUAD, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STAYING? We are not amongst our peers anymore. Don't we want a new dream and challenge? Why the hell cannot NDSU be a power in BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL in 30 years??? Well, it starts with moving up and accepting the challenge of winning a non BIG 5 conference and going from there.
    Has any conference invited NDSU to join them?????? No that's correct. So how does NDSU move up?
    If we concentrated on the really important stuff in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles"

    When you play football, you gotta like the taste of blood, And 50 percent of the time, it's your blood.

    You don't give out trophies for losing. Trophies for sucking. That's a communist idea. You don't get a trophy for losing. You get a piece of pizza and you shut up. Trophies for losing? What the hell happened to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strongman View Post
    Jesus Christ. After we QUAD, WHAT IS THE POINT OF STAYING? We are not amongst our peers anymore. Don't we want a new dream and challenge? Why the hell cannot NDSU be a power in BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL in 30 years??? Well, it starts with moving up and accepting the challenge of winning a non BIG 5 conference and going from there.
    I would argue after winning the quad is exactly the wrong time to move. Success on the field is not a pre-requisite to move up and moving up after a successful run gives the program an inflated impression of fan support. There are a ton of band wagon fans on board right now. Hell we have Sioux fans showing up to the games because we are good and interesting. Remember the days that we used to worry about the deer opener and how no one would show up? Those disappeared when we started winning championships, however there is no indication that those days won't return when we have less than great years. Show me that through the down years that the fan base still stays strong then come talk to me...

    Here is my opinion, there is a large percentage of NDSU football fans are interested in seeing a team win national championships. There are people on this board who say that, people who just by participating on a message board are more fanatical than your average rube. If there is a sizable group on the board, the numbers amongst the average fanbase are higher. And make no mistake, if we move up with the big boys, we will never, ever sniff a national championship again.
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    I love ndsu football and its as good as it gets there is no doubt....id rather stay where we are then play in detroit in december....and we dont have the backing to move up or the invite to move up to the top p5 conferences so i stay here

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbison View Post
    I love ndsu football and its as good as it gets there is no doubt....id rather stay where we are then play in detroit in december....and we dont have the backing to move up or the invite to move up to the top p5 conferences so i stay here

    This^^^^^^^^^ for right now!
    If we concentrated on the really important stuff in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles"

    When you play football, you gotta like the taste of blood, And 50 percent of the time, it's your blood.

    You don't give out trophies for losing. Trophies for sucking. That's a communist idea. You don't get a trophy for losing. You get a piece of pizza and you shut up. Trophies for losing? What the hell happened to us?

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    People talk about quads and this and that. How about talk about this when a conference actually says they want to expand? Only conference that wants to do that is the Sun Belt and I think most here can agree that doesn't work well for either party.

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