Sagarin says

[westnodak93bison]

So we should be looking at predictor all the time? What is used for the 4 team playoff?

[thebootfitter]

So we should be looking at predictor all the time? What is used for the 4 team playoff?

The new "Rating" is an average of "predictor" and the other new measure. So the "Rating" is probably the best/easiest to use.

[bisonaudit]

So we should be looking at predictor all the time? What is used for the 4 team playoff?

What's used for the playoff is whatever the 13 chuckle-heads on the selection committee decide to use.

[Herd]

Top 10 Teams, Outside the P5 (based on Sagarin)

Cincinnati 29
BYU 32
Boise 35
NDSU 40
UCF 45
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Toledo 49
Fresno 55
Utah State 56
San Diego State 61
East Carolina 62

[westnodak93bison]

I blew through the sagarin ratings, looks like we are ranked above 29 p5 teams

[THEsocalledfan]

I blew through the sagarin ratings, looks like we are ranked above 29 p5 teams

Like everyone has been saying, coaches change, players change, and the scheduled changes. What does not change is Bison Football. NDSU is a special place and we have been and will have a better football program than many in the P5.

[thebootfitter]

I'm at a computer now, so have the luxury to look this up and copy/paste from Sagarin:

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GOLDEN_MEAN is completely SCORE BASED but with a different algorithm than the PURE POINTS
and thus should be a good match for the PURE POINTS in terms of predictive accuracy for upcoming games.
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In ELO_SCORE, the score determines what fraction of a victory was attained but since the maximum
fraction is ONE(1.00), no matter how big the score is, it prevents running up the score to be that advantageous;
It is slightly less accurate in its predictions for upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS or GOLDEN_MEAN,
in which the score is the only thing that matters. PURE POINTS is also known as PREDICTOR,
BALLANTINE, RHEINGOLD, WHITE OWL and is a very good PREDICTOR of future games.
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The overall RATING is a synthesis of the three different methods, with more total weight
to the two completely SCORE-BASED methods and thus should be a good predictor in its own right.
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Around post 1027 in this thread, we discuss the new measures. In post 1038, I summarized what I perceived to be our consensus that the new "Rating" score would be preferable to use going forward. Feel free to take a look back or add any new insight if anyone has any to offer.

[Gully]

Crap, I thought I actually understood this and now I see that it changed. How the heck did I miss all this last year?

#oldguyprobs

[thebootfitter]

Crap, I thought I actually understood this and now I see that it changed. How the heck did I miss all this last year?

#oldguyprobs

Funny thing is, Gully, if you look through the posts where we were discussing it, I think you actually were in the mix at the time.

#oldguyprobs, indeed!

[Gully]

Ha, I don't doubt it. I'm probably a couple of years from the "old folks home" at this point.