Sagarin says

[EndZoneQB]

The number of quality teams is going to vary from year to year. Its cyclical. We have not passed the test of time. To think we have mastered this division is very short sighted. But for some reason you seem bored with where we are and the teams we play? Why is 3 natties the magic number? If we dont win 3 does that mean we arent ready?
How is the division going to get watered down?
You have to be invited to move up. The Bigs need to settle it out before any determination can be made. We are not in charge of our own destiny. Too many stars need to align before a move can be considered.
By some chance the stars align where is the money going to come from? Just snap our fingers? Are you willing to write the check? Im not taking about 100.00. I am talking substantial money. Its going to be a serious commitment. You think only 2500 TM will be able to fund this move?
What conference are we going to? We certainly cant demanded a conference to take us because we are the mighty Bison. What about Title 9 concerns? There are many more issues than what I brought up Iam sure.
Winning 3 natties will not be the catalyst that makes NDSU move. The catalyst is something we have no control over. And the catalyst certainly isnt fans ego. Which is really nothing more than noise.

More importantly what is the benefit for NDSU in moving up? Whats the ROI? The reason I ask this is because if there is a move up the football team will become a very small piece of the puzzle in the over all picture.

Ahh, I get it!

[td577]

If ndsu moves up it will be because espn says it is time to move up. We are the new Boise state. Espn will drive a conference invite.

Then we will run into the money issues, title 9, and stadium size stuff. Anyone who thinks 20 additional scholarships doesn't really mean 60, is beyond delusional. Too late to break down why 60, but maybe tomorrow between turkey and pecan pie I'll do so.

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[NorthernBison]

LOL at calling the MAC or MWC moving up...........big time LOL. Unless the Big 12 panics and gives NDSU an invite there is no moving up available. Or just wait 5 years for all of the MAC's and Sun Belt's and MWC's to come back to reality and move down to where they should be funding aka a level they can actually win a championship in

Amen. The power conferences look at the MAC and MWC the same way we look at the Pioneer, Patriot, and OVC. Possibly with even a more superior attitude. There is ZERO future there.

[Strongman]

LOL at calling the MAC or MWC moving up...........big time LOL. Unless the Big 12 panics and gives NDSU an invite there is no moving up available. Or just wait 5 years for all of the MAC's and Sun Belt's and MWC's to come back to reality and move down to where they should be funding aka a level they can actually win a championship in

You are mistaken. The MAC is a step up. Northern Illinois is set up for its second consecutive BCS Bowl appearance. The landscape of DI football has changed. $$$$$$$ will drive the four team playoff to eight, then eventually a 16 to a 20 team playoff. This will mean that every conference winner will be invited to the Big Dance.

IF the standard to win a national title was the standard to move up, then every BCS conference and team therein besides the SEC should move down. 8/12 teams in the Big Ten HAVE ZERO CHANCE TO EVER WIN A NATIONAL TITLE.

[BisonNation11]

So is anyone other than NIU doing anything worth while in the MAC? No? Ok then. It's a step down.

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[Bison bison]

I would put the MAC on even keel with the MVC.

A chance at a national championship vs. $$$ and playing football on Tuesday Night. I'd rather stay FCS.

Things shake up a certain way, then I think it's worth entertaining.

It is fun to be a 'have' in fcs' which we would never be in 'fbs'.

[thebootfitter]

Not trying to be the thread police (well... Okay, maybe I am a little bit), but I do enjoy reading this thread for the discussion around Sagarin ratings and statistics. There are several other threads that discuss a move to FBS, and you are free to start even more. But I, for one, would appreciate it if discussion in this thread stays focused on the titular topic.

Thanks for your consideration. :-)


P.S. Really, I just wanted to use "titular" in a sentence.

[75NOVA]

titular: (1) in name only: having a particular title, rank, or position, but not possessing the power or exercising the functions usually associated with it. I had to google it. I like things that start with tit.

[BlueBisonRock]

titular: (1) in name only: having a particular title, rank, or position, but not possessing the power or exercising the functions usually associated with it. I had to google it. I like things that start with tit.

As does Izzy who is now lying on the floor overdosed on turkey gravy and dressing while dreaming about the pole he acquired for the tailgate lot.

Sagarin gives him 87.78 odds on getting the pole to the Bison second round game. I can't find the odds for having the pole used.

(ok, brought it back to topic...)

[bri-dog]

As does Izzy who is now lying on the floor covered in turkey gravy and dressing while dreaming about the pole he acquired for the tailgate lot.

Sagarin gives him 87.78 odds on getting the pole to the Bison second round game. I can't find the odds for having the pole used.

(ok, brought it back to topic...)

Probably more accurate...