Sagarin says

[bisonaudit]

NDSU sagar in ranking was brought up on reusse show last week, they said it doesn't matter when they don't play a solid team outside of Kansas state

That's like trying to tell Harold Reynolds that Mike Trout should win the MVP because his WAR is better than Miguel Cabrera's.

[THEsocalledfan]

NDSU sagar in ranking was brought up on reusse show last week, they said it doesn't matter when they don't play a solid team outside of Kansas state

Funny part of that argument is:

Why then does BCS use Sargarin in its formula even if not the best one?

Also, who has Northern Illinois played? They are ranked 18 by AP. Then you point out NDSU plays in a higher ranked conference.

That shuts them up fast.

[dragonsfan]

Good points, I'm just saying being fcs will always keep ndsu down in terms of respect nationwide and regionally, 24 playoff teams are a who's who of nobodys

[THEsocalledfan]

Good points, I'm just saying being fcs will always keep ndsu down in terms of respect nationwide and regionally, 24 playoff teams are a who's who of nobodys

Sam, if you didn't already give away your identity with the Reusse comment (many on here don't know who that is), you sure did with this one.

Your point is valid, however, the MAC is also a who's who of nobodies, as is the Sunbest, conf. USA, etc. I think the only conference I'd be remotely interested in is MWC and NDSU has a facility problem for that. As it is, I think it makes sense to see how the D1 shake up goes down, and have plans for FargoDome expansion when the opportunity strikes.

[dragonsfan]

I dont know who ypur talkin about, but your tellin me people don't know reusse? Its on 1500am startribune, I mean ndsu is 50% minnesota and yes when you travel and bring up a convo, college football is bcs bcs bcs

[THEsocalledfan]

I dont know who ypur talkin about, but your tellin me people don't know reusse? Its on 1500am startribune, I mean ndsu is 50% minnesota and yes when you travel and bring up a convo, college football is bcs bcs bcs

So, Sam, you have a plan to get NDSU into an auto-bid conference? If so, I'd sure like to hear it. Personally, I think the deck is so fundamentally stacked against the NDSU's and Boise's of the world, that I don't see a good "out."

[bisonaudit]

So, Sam, you have a plan to get NDSU into an auto-bid conference? If so, I'd sure like to hear it. Personally, I think the deck is so fundamentally stacked against the NDSU's and Boise's of the world, that I don't see a good "out."

Did you see the AD and President at JMU pushed out their 15 year National Title winning coach so that they can cash in on a cynical, program destroying move to C-USA.

Until they fix the I-A business model there's no sense moving up.

[THEsocalledfan]

Until they fix the I-A business model there's no sense moving up.

I think the model works for the auto bid conferences.....

[bisonaudit]

I think the model works for the auto bid conferences.....

We're not getting into an auto-bid conference.

Neither is JMU, or Old Dominion, or App St. or Georgia Southern. Their 'leaders' are lining their pockets while their programs rot on the vine.

[heffray]

Did you see the AD and President at JMU pushed out their 15 year National Title winning coach so that they can cash in on a cynical, program destroying move to C-USA.

Until they fix the I-A business model there's no sense moving up.

I agree completely with the bold. Its sad that there is more money to be made with a "program destroying" move like that, as you put. I just hope that NDSU's leadership is smart enough to see that and wait for the right time, if it ever comes.

I know about all the threads that start every year about this, but how fun would it be if the the FBS were split into 8 mega-conferences, each with an auto-bid to a 12-team play-off (the other 4 selected based on merit), similar to the FCS one now with 4 first-round byes. If a move up to a conference that got a bid into this imaginary play-off were ever an opportunity on the horizon, I would absolutetly get on board with that. If not, I say we stay where we are.