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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    I can never remember how this thing works; what does it predict for SDSU with their home field?

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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    There's an 84 percent chance of beating N. Iowa but only a 68 percent chance of beating S. Illinois. This seems a little whacked but maybe playing on the road or at home plays into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan View Post
    Something looks wrong about the rating and results so far. If NDSU is +12.32 and +10.85, shouldn't they just have a higher rating?
    I don't disagree, but early in the season while still incorporating some data from last year, the stats can produce odd results. Give it a few more weeks and all should fall into place. (And hope that K-State starts winning again.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Bison View Post
    There's an 84 percent chance of beating N. Iowa but only a 68 percent chance of beating S. Illinois. This seems a little whacked but maybe playing on the road or at home plays into this?
    The home field advantage has been over 5 points a game so far this season. It should normalize down to around 3 over time. That's a big part of this. Also these are last weeks numbers. After the games of 9/21, the computer thinks UNI is 3 points better than they were a week ago and it evaluates S. Ill. as a half a point worse than the week before.
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    NDSU's 72.97 would rank:

    5th in the American Athletic (-1 from last week)
    9th in the ACC (-2)
    10th in the Big Ten (-1)
    8th in the Big 12 (=)
    2nd in Conference USA (-1)
    1st in the MAC (=)
    3rd in the MWC (=)
    11th in the PAC 12 (-1)
    14th in the SEC (-1)
    1st in the Sun Belt (=)
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    CUSA 61.43 (-0.14 from last week)
    MAC 60.26 (-0.69)
    MVFC 58.85 (-1.17)
    Sn Blt 57.88 (-2.77)
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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Dsu and Ferris don't help at all.

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    Based on Sagarin's numbers (look no further than the 5.23 home field number for evidence its early) w/ 2.61 pt kicker for coming off a bye week, here's the outlook for the remainder of the regular season:

    SDSU 61.3% (+2.6 percentage points from last week)
    UNI 74.4% (-9.9)
    Mo St 97.0% (-1.0)
    S Ill 65.3% (-3.6)
    Ind St 76.5% (-1.9)
    Ill St 97.2% (+1.6)
    YSU 72.0% (-5.9)
    USD 98.8% (-0.1)

    11-0 15.3% (-3.9)
    10-1 34.7% (-3.4)
    9-2 31.5% (+2.3)
    8-3 14.5% (+3.4)
    7-4 3.5% (+1.3)
    6-5 0.4% (+0.2)
    5-6 0.02%
    4-7 0.0004%
    3-8 0.000002%

    Assumes a normal distribution of outcomes w/ Sagarin's projected spread as the mean and a standard deviation of 13.86.
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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    I can never remember how this thing works; what does it predict for SDSU with their home field?
    Hammersmith does all the work for you, just check out his predict column. NDSU is 3.88 point favorite.
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    Default Re: Sagarin says

    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Hammersmith does all the work for you, just check out his predict column. NDSU is 3.88 point favorite.
    I get it, again. I have to have this thing explained to me on a yearly basis.

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