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    Bohl will be visiting with Layne Johs tomorrow.
    Everyone just relax, all right? Believe me, if there's one thing Ron Burgundy knows, it's women.

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    RB Clarence Smith added an offer from Nevada. His offer from Utah is a gray shirt offer right now.
    http://hsarizona.scout.com/2/1259527.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsRams View Post
    I understand most of you are sheep and believe whatever you are told. Anyone can contact anyone on social media and ask any question they want. You may not contact potential recruits with an agenda. If the purpose of contacting the recruit is to promote a certain school that is a violation. Lookup the rule next time before you just believe anything you are told.
    And to be clear anyone who speaks with the coach about potential recruits and alludes to certain information on message boards is making a violation. By speaking to a coach about recruits you're putting the coaches job in jeopardy in the athletic department in jeopardy
    Guy gets thrown under the bus on one recruit and turns all pissy. I love it.

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    http://hsarizona.scout.com/2/1259455.html

    Anthem Boulder Creek CB Ryan McKinley visited North Dakota State and now has visited all three of his top schools. He says, "NDSU was real nice. I liked it a lot, I am just blessed and lucky that out of these three schools, I cannot go wrong either way."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsRams View Post
    I understand most of you are sheep and believe whatever you are told. Anyone can contact anyone on social media and ask any question they want. You may not contact potential recruits with an agenda. If the purpose of contacting the recruit is to promote a certain school that is a violation. Lookup the rule next time before you just believe anything you are told.
    And to be clear anyone who speaks with the coach about potential recruits and alludes to certain information on message boards is making a violation. By speaking to a coach about recruits you're putting the coaches job in jeopardy in the athletic department in jeopardy
    http://www.gobison.com//pdf4/664624.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=2400
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    Definition of a “Rep”

    NCAA rules define a “rep” as an individual who is known (or should have been known) by a member of the institution’s executive or athletic administration to:
    1. Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution’s athletic program;
    2. Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletic booster organization of that institution;
    3. Be assisting or to have been requested by the athletics department staff to assist in the recruitment of prospects;
    4. Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families; or
    5. Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution’s athletic program.

    Once an individual has been identified as a “rep”, that person retains that identity indefinitely.
    NOTE: By NCAA interpretation the spouse of an institution’s coach is presumed to be a “rep”. Parents of currently enrolled student-athletes are also considered “reps”.

    “Reps” and Recruiting

    NCAA regulations state: “In Division I, representatives of an institution’s athletics interests are prohibited from making in-person, on or off-campus recruiting contacts or written or telephonic communications with a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or legal guardians.”

    Basically, a “rep” can have no involvement in the recruitment of a prospect. The one exception to this rule is that a “rep” may have a conversation with a prospect about summer employment after the prospect has signed a National Letter of Intent.

    1. A “rep” of an institution is prohibited from making in-person, on or off campus recruiting contact with a prospect and his or her parents or legal guardians.
    2. A “rep” of an institution is prohibited from writing or telephoning a prospect and his or her parents or legal guardians.
    3. A “rep” is prohibited from contacting a prospect’s coach, principal or counselor in an attempt to evaluate a prospect.
    "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are."
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    http://www.gobison.com//pdf6/79469.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=2400

    ARE YOU A REPRESENTATIVE OF NDSU'S
    ATHLETICS INTERESTS?

    You are a representative of NDSU’s athletics interests, more commonly known as a “booster”, if
    you meet any of the following conditions:

    ! You have been or are a member of any organization that promotes NDSU’s athletics
    program (e.g., NDSU Foundation, Team Makers).
    ! You have made a financial contribution to the NDSU athletics department or its booster
    organization.
    ! You have ever assisted in the recruitment of prospects for NDSU.
    ! You have provided benefits (e.g. summer jobs or occasional family meals) to enrolled
    student-athletes.
    ! You have arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes, or assisted
    in providing any benefit to enrolled student-athletes or their families.
    ! You have ever, in any way, promoted the athletics program at NDSU.

    WHO IS A PROSPECTIVE
    STUDENT-ATHLETE?

    A prospective student-athlete, commonly known as a “prospect”, is any individual who has started
    classes for the 9th grade. In addition, student-athletes enrolled in preparatory school or two-year
    colleges are considered prospects. Ultimately, a student remains a prospect until enrollment at a
    four-year collegiate institution. It is possible for a younger student-athlete to be a prospect so
    it is a good idea to treat all athletes as prospects until they enroll.

    WHO CAN RECRUIT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
    STATE UNIVERSITY?

    Only North Dakota State University coaches who successfully complete the annual NCAA
    Coaches Certification Exam, which tests their knowledge of NCAA recruitment legislation, are
    permitted to be involved in the recruiting process.

    As a booster, you are specifically prohibited from:

    ! Making any recruiting contacts with prospects or their relatives. This includes telephone
    calls, letters, e-mails, and facsimiles, along with any face-to-face contact either on-or off -
    campus.
    ! Assisting NDSU coaches by picking up transcripts, films, or any other information
    pertaining to a prospect’s ability from the prospect’s educational institution.
    ! Contacting a prospect’s coach, principal, or guidance counselor to evaluate the
    prospect.
    ! Providing a benefit to high school, prep school or community college coaches.
    ! Contacting an enrolled student-athlete at another institution to encourage a transfer to
    NDSU to participate in our athletic program.
    ! Making arrangements for a prospect or the prospect’s relatives or friends to receive money or financial support of any kind.
    "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy View Post
    Bohl will be visiting with Layne Johs tomorrow.
    http://www.prepforce.com/media/videos/iphone/2841.mp4
    http://www.prepforce.com/media/videos/iphone/1467.mp4
    "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are."
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    Two things. I'm appreciative of everyone who makes meaningful contributions to this thread because none of the recruiting agencies put much effort into the fcs level.Second Couldn't anyone ask a potential highschool football player if he has any visits scheduled and who has offered? Where is the violation in that? Samsrams is reporting information that is easily found on twitter so how is that a violation? What's the difference form rivals making contact with the recruit if neither a pushing an agenda?

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    Great information Kermit. Thank you for posting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontBison View Post
    Two things. I'm appreciative of everyone who makes meaningful contributions to this thread because none of the recruiting agencies put much effort into the fcs level.Second Couldn't anyone ask a potential highschool football player if he has any visits scheduled and who has offered? Where is the violation in that? Samsrams is reporting information that is easily found on twitter so how is that a violation? What's the difference form rivals making contact with the recruit if neither a pushing an agenda?
    Clearly Rivals isn't a "rep" of NDSU (as defined earlier in the thread). For instance, if Samsrams contacted a recruit it seems it wouldn't be a violation as long a Samsrams doesn't fit any of the criteria for being a "rep" of NDSU. I suspect the NCAA would interpret a "rep" simply asking a recruit about recruiting visits and other offers to fall under the category of "recruiting"-clearly that's valuable intelligence for the staff to gather. However, this is beyond the realm of how the athletic department would view a "rep" of taking that action. Even if it is a grey area for the NCAA, the athletic department would probably like to err on the side of caution.

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