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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    Using the Sports Network bracket?
    Yes. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    Student already covered it, but here is the expanded version.

    If you go to this website: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm
    You will see that there are several columns. If you go to the far right, you will see two columns of numbers. The blue numbers are labeled PREDICTOR and the red column is labeled ELO_CHESS. The blue column includes all factors like W/L record, strength of schedule and score margin. When the BCS approached Sagarin to include his numbers in their computer rankings, they forbid him from using some factors in his calculation, including margin of victory. All that was allowed was W/L record and SOS. Those results make up the red column. When USA Today started running Sagarin's results, they wanted something that included both figures. So Sagarin created a third set of results that basically averages the two numbers(not exactly, but close). This third set of numbers is labeled RATING and is colored purple.

    So which to use? Sagarin makes this comment in his introduction at the top of the webpage linked above: (emphases mine)


    Since Sagarin says PREDICTOR is the most accurate, that's the one I go with. The conference rankings are also recalculated using the PREDICTOR numbers and the central mean method.

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    NDSU 71.23; Western Illinois 41.56 + 3 for them...so Bison by 26.67
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    The computers still love us....should mean good things for our GPI....

    http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

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    If we take care of business this week like we should, we will get a good seed. IF we are the top 2, I want to be #3 and have a chance to play @ #2 MSU again like last year. That would be a fantastic game to see.

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    We are still #1 in the GPI, but that doesn't guarantee a #1 seed. It should give us at least a #4 seed, I hope.

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    If we win a 4 seed should be extremely attainable. We still have the possibility of a 2 seed if everything goes our way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    14-1 27.5%
    13-2 18.3%
    12-2 21.3%
    11-2 19.2%
    10-2 12.4%
    11-3 0.5%
    10-3 0.4%
    9-3 0.3%
    Sports Network moved Wofford @ Montana into our quarter and Towson @ App. St. out. Which increases the projected difficulty of our quarter final and makes Sam Houston's projected road to the Semi's easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Sports Network moved Wofford @ Montana into our quarter and Towson @ App. St. out. Which increases the projected difficulty of our quarter final and makes Sam Houston's projected road to the Semi's easier.
    Umm, some of those records you posted have a zero chance of happening, yet there are still percentages??!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Umm, some of those records you posted have a zero chance of happening, yet there are still percentages??!!!!!!!

    Computers these days . . . . . . . . . . . .
    I'll bite...which ones are impossible, Mr. Pythagoras?
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