2010 Recruiting

[bisonhusker]

I was reading the bunny board a while back and one guy said it best..."Well, time to start recruiting, but NDSU has the best two players in the state of South Dakota already."

We targeted kids ealier this year and it is paying off. It takes years to judge a class. I also thought NDSU had a better class in 05 and it turned out I was wrong. Stig is looking to put together a much smaller but talented class.

[CarringtonBison]

helps pass the long work days.

wtf, we are supposed to work while perusing this.....crap, no wonder my ceo is always pissed at me

[BisonNolesFan77]

Just because you sign a recruit early it doesn't mean that the recruit is any better than the one you sign in January.

When I've been searching online to find SDSU recruits it seems NDSU has an offer out to every kid in the Midwest. You can't read an article on Wissports.com that doesn't mention a kid having interest from NDSU. I've also ran into recruits like this:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n-Dudzik-87967
That have alot of schools showing interest and than there's always NDSU who probably offered 3 months ago.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just different strategies. NDSU got out and offered a bunch of kids right away. It's a strategy that I think is new to NDSU and not the normal practice in the FCS right now. I think most coaching staffs in the FCS are shorthanded enough that they are focusing more on practice/winning than recruiting. I think Coach Bohl knew that this year was going to be a wash so he jumped on recruiting early to get some recruits before other schools got going. Not a bad strategy, alot of kids site that "they recruited me early" as a strong point to why they chose one school over the other. I think it can also come back to bite at times too as there can be a risk taking kids before they've played their senior seasons.

First off, I'm not going to get in a pissing match here about recruits, it's pretty clear that the way SDSU recruits is working for them, but a few things you said have me scratching my head...

Since when is it a bad thing that there are a lot of players getting interest from NDSU? Interest doesn't mean a thing other than they are getting out there to a lot recruits. Interest is all in how the recruit views it, is he getting a letter once every few weeks? Is it a handwritten something once a week? Calls on a very regular basis? Point is, a recruit could get the usual mailing once a month and say he is getting interest.

It's a bad thing that NDSU has an offer out to a kid who is getting looks from Iowa St., Kansas St., Nebraska, and Oregon? But I suppose that because SDSU doesn't have an offer out to him its foolish?

Why is it a risk to take kids before they have played their senior season? Rarely does a player take a step back from their senior season compared to junior. The coaching staffs have also seen this kids at their summers camps, seeing them in person, meeting with them, will tell you a whole lot more than you can tell from watching them on tape. Yeah, the risk of injury is there, but the school is not bound to a scholarship offer, but you also have the advantage of getting a good relationship with a recruit, and if he has an outstanding senior season which leads to big schools calling, if you have sold him on your program, etc, you have a leg up.

Just my thoughts...

[JacksFan06]

First off, I'm not going to get in a pissing match here about recruits, it's pretty clear that the way SDSU recruits is working for them, but a few things you said have me scratching my head...

Since when is it a bad thing that there are a lot of players getting interest from NDSU? Interest doesn't mean a thing other than they are getting out there to a lot recruits. Interest is all in how the recruit views it, is he getting a letter once every few weeks? Is it a handwritten something once a week? Calls on a very regular basis? Point is, a recruit could get the usual mailing once a month and say he is getting interest.

It's a bad thing that NDSU has an offer out to a kid who is getting looks from Iowa St., Kansas St., Nebraska, and Oregon? But I suppose that because SDSU doesn't have an offer out to him its foolish?

Why is it a risk to take kids before they have played their senior season? Rarely does a player take a step back from their senior season compared to junior. The coaching staffs have also seen this kids at their summers camps, seeing them in person, meeting with them, will tell you a whole lot more than you can tell from watching them on tape. Yeah, the risk of injury is there, but the school is not bound to a scholarship offer, but you also have the advantage of getting a good relationship with a recruit, and if he has an outstanding senior season which leads to big schools calling, if you have sold him on your program, etc, you have a leg up.

Just my thoughts...

I wasn't trying to say that getting out and recruiting early and often was a bad thing, just a difference in strategy compared to other FCS schools and also compared to what NDSU did in the past.
Your right that signing a kid before their senior season isn't a big risk, but there is still some risk/reward to it.
The risks I see would be Injury, a change of heart, doesn't make grades, or mainly, having a player not progress like a coaching staff would predict.
Some players potential can flatline early and I would think it helps to be able to compare where a player is their junior year and than how much they improved for their senior year to help project their ceiling. Recruiting is really all projection to see where a player will be at a couple years down the road.
But like you said, the players NDSU were offering they were doing with a good amount of info. I would assume most of the kids were at their summer camp and the coaching staff got a chance up close to see what they are capable of.

Just wondering, who does Bisonville see as the top 3 or 4 recruits that have verbaled so far? My guess would be LB Don Carter, QB/S Esley Thornton, OL Jesse Hinz & WR Trevor Gebhardt?

[jackrabbit1979]

I was reading the bunny board a while back and one guy said it best..."Well, time to start recruiting, but NDSU has the best two players in the state of South Dakota already."

We targeted kids ealier this year and it is paying off. It takes years to judge a class. I also thought NDSU had a better class in 05 and it turned out I was wrong. Stig is looking to put together a much smaller but talented class.

Do you have a link to this post on our board, I'd like to see who said it. By most accounts, the two highest regarded players in SD this year are Tom Farniok, the OL from SF Washington who has committed to Iowa State, and Austin Sumner the QB from Brandon Valley who has yet to verbally commit.

BTW, Farniok's younger brother Derek (6'8", 300lb junior this year) is said to be even better and will be the most highly recruited player in SD and ND next year. Already has offer from the gophers and others...

[BraxtonT]

wtf, we are supposed to work while perusing this.....crap, no wonder my ceo is always pissed at me

Well, now I know why it seems like forever before you come into the examining room. Ah, I'll let it go, though. A good reason for sure.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Do you have a link to this post on our board, I'd like to see who said it. By most accounts, the two highest regarded players in SD this year are Tom Farniok, the OL from SF Washington who has committed to Iowa State, and Austin Sumner the QB from Brandon Valley who has yet to verbally commit.

BTW, Farniok's younger brother Derek (6'8", 300lb junior this year) is said to be even better and will be the most highly recruited player in SD and ND next year. Already has offer from the gophers and others...

ooooooow the gooooofers must be a stud recruit

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Originally Posted by JACKGUYII View Post
I think next year Cam Hornby will give Woodside all he wants as I think he has the quickness to play with him. Things will equal out a bit next year with us adding our own four redshirts to the squad. I like Miles as a coach, but will put my money on Nagy over the long haul.

http://sdsufans.com/board/showpost.p...1&postcount=60

I always love that one

[johnson]

Can we move the smack to the smack forum? Can we get some recruiting info back in here?

[admin]

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