A new and better FBS thread

[Twentysix]

The P2 would also be happy to dump the bottom half of the FBS so everyone left gets twice the money.

I doubt this is how it would work lol.
More like the top 10 teams get 8 times the money and the rest get 1% more money on some kind of downward sliding scale.

[BigHorns]

The P2 would also be happy to dump the bottom half of the FBS so everyone left gets twice the money.

Money is most of the motivation. They also want to continue to own majority of the CFP slots, which equates to more success/money.

Dumping the bottom half via increased financial costs is a lot easier to pull off than using other mechanisms that might be more open to legal challenges. My theory is this has been the plan for a while. Will not be surprised to see a good chunk of G5 weeded out. I am not sure CUSA or even MAC survives in current state. There may be some conference consolidation.

[Professor Chaos]

I am not convinced they will drop this requirement. The P2/4, who are really calling the shots in FBS now, want to increase the financial costs of being in FBS. They are against making it easy for FCS move ups to continue. I think especially the P2 would be happy to force some teams to drop back down.

If they don't drop it then it's going to need some tweaking since partial scholarships will be allowed.... so one team with 95 scholarship players might only be giving out 80 full rides equivalents with ~30 players on partials whereas another team might be giving out full rides to all 95.

[BigHorns]

If they don't drop it then it's going to need some tweaking since partial scholarships will be allowed.... so one team with 95 scholarship players might only be giving out 80 full rides equivalents with ~30 players on partials whereas another team might be giving out full rides to all 95.

The rule will likely be interpretted by NCAA to require 90% full ride equivalents. If a school chooses to divide some of these into partials, I don't expect it will change the math. I could see some schools splitting 95 scholarships across 105 players.

"All FBS schools will be required to provide 90% of the total number of allowable scholarships over a two-year rolling period across at least 16 sports, including football."

"These requirements will take effect Aug. 1, 2027, for existing FBS members and for schools already transitioning to FBS membership. Moving forward, for schools applying to transition to FBS beginning in 2024-25 and thereafter, the requirements would have to be met by the end of the two-year transition process."

[Professor Chaos]

The rule will likely be interpretted by NCAA to require 90% full ride equivalents. If a school chooses to divide some of these into partials, I don't expect it will change the math. I could see some schools splitting 95 scholarships across 105 players.

"All FBS schools will be required to provide 90% of the total number of allowable scholarships over a two-year rolling period across at least 16 sports, including football."

"These requirements will take effect Aug. 1, 2027, for existing FBS members and for schools already transitioning to FBS membership. Moving forward, for schools applying to transition to FBS beginning in 2024-25 and thereafter, the requirements would have to be met by the end of the two-year transition process."

Are those quotes from one article or mixed from two? Where have you seen that the rule is likely to be interpreted as full ride equivalents? By nature equivalency sports, which football will become, don't have scholarship limits and instead have roster limits. That's why I was assuming the 90% scholarship minimum would need to be revised or removed but I could be wrong - I just haven't ever seen it stated one way or the other yet.

[NDSUstudent]

Jeff Choate likes North Dakota State's fit in the MW but is it worth financial jump?

"I think that they're a better fit than a lot of other places that we're talking to, but I don't know why they would," Choate said of North Dakota State joining the MW. "It's going to cost them probably $14 million because about four years ago the buy-in to Division I went from $1 million to $11 million. So, it's going to cost them a bunch of money, and they have plenty of money. Don't get me wrong. But year in and year out, they can compete for a national championship. They can where they're at now. If they feel like the juice is worth the squeeze and they can get into a position they might be able to do it. I think there's four teams that could do it. North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Montana State and Montana. I think all of those teams could potentially make the leap because of their fan base, but they're going to have to go from a 20-something million dollar athletic budget up into the 40s. And so is there an appetite to do that in those states? I don't know the answer to that."

In terms of North Dakota State's ability to quickly compete in the MW, Choate had no doubt about that with the Bison routinely beating power-conference FBS schools over the last 15 seasons.

"Do I think they would compete really well?" Choate said. "Absolutely. Yeah, I do."

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/rep...financial-jump

[TAILG8R]

Jeff Choate likes North Dakota State's fit in the MW but is it worth financial jump?




https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/rep...financial-jump

Haha none of his numbers are accurate but I guess he made his point.


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[NDSUstudent]

Haha none of his numbers are accurate but I guess he made his point.


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Yeah, his numbers are ridiculous but the first sentence really says all that needs to be said.

[MWC]

I thought it was pretty random that question came up in a routine Monday press conference about the upcoming game against AFA.

[TAILG8R]

You can’t listen to ML on 1660 today and tell me his stance hasn’t changed.

It used to be NDSU wants to be at the highest level of football that makes sense for NDSU. Or some other caveat like where they can compete for championships.

Today several times it was stated as NDSU wants to play at the highest level possible. The things he said about FBS conferences should want NDSU sounded a lot more like the official stance is now we want to go, we are ready and just waiting for an invite.

A very drastic difference than what was coming out of his mouth just a few months ago.


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