A new and better FBS thread

[Twentysix]

Like I said, I agree that Davis makes the most sense. You’ve mostly answered other questions by basically saying that a strong national football brand alone is not enough for you. Agree to disagree.

Davis is a Fix'r upper p4 school. They seem like such a slam dunk candidate that the mwc will probably offer Tennessee tech.

You know, gotta get that knoxville-nashville media market. Cookeville, TN (population 37,000) is around a hundred miles from both knoxville and nashville! Think of that sweet tennessee media market.

Its got everything they desire, eastern time zone, $$$$ media market, tiny town no ones ever heard of 100 miles from a city everyones heard of, school no ones ever heard of, small enrollment, vaguely D1 with no name recognition. It checks all the boxes.

[MWC]

Like I said, I agree that Davis makes the most sense. You’ve mostly answered other questions by basically saying that a strong national football brand alone is not enough for you. Agree to disagree.

I don't believe that a strong, national brand football program is 'not' enough. I also do not believe you are out of the running, either. Football only is an easy sale because it just means 4 schools each year coming to Fargo. I think all of the members already charter flights for football. Every other season you would have a very long air travel day to get to Honolulu. Hawaii would be in the same boat. That would be your schools' problem but not an issue for the rest of the conference.

Football is your best calling card but not your only one. Gloria always talks about fit first. The presidents who decide all this stuff are academics first and sports fans second. I believe you are a land grant, tier 1 school. In that regard you have some things in common with different MW universities. That could help and it certainly won't hurt.

AS football only you wouldn't be involved with the other sports and you would not receive a share of any of the basketball credits and any other revenue from oly sports. You would only get a partial share of the tv deals. You would have to cough up 5 million bucks to move to FBS and sponsor at least 6 million dollars worth of scholarships. You are already D-1 for your other sports. It is the FBS designation that is really pricey.

I think your president would want answers to various questions. Do you really want to be in the MW for football only? Would rather be in the Pac? They will likely be the stronger football conference. Is it worth it to be in any conference as football only at the FBS level. The MW is unlikely to be in contention for a spot in the CFP most years. The Pac probably does have a chance but G5 is G5. It ain't easy top get there.

[heffray]

I don't believe that a strong, national brand football program is 'not' enough. I also do not believe you are out of the running, either.

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…it’s not enough to make the top of your list, and you’ve also said that you would prefer not to have a football only member at all, so not to split hairs, but that’s what makes it “not enough” in your opinion (I understand this is just your opinion and you’re not a decision-maker).

I can tell you’ve put a lot of thought into this and I think you make good points, I just don’t agree, and I hope you’re wrong.

[NI4NI]

So what if.....We would get an invite to join a conference in FBS contingent on being all in in all sports?
Do the other sports have the desire to move up to the next level as well? (wrestling would be a lateral move of course)
Are we in the position to quickly make that decision?

[MWC]

…it’s not enough to make the top of your list, and you’ve also said that you would prefer not to have a football only member at all, so not to split hairs, but that’s what makes it “not enough” in your opinion (I understand this is just your opinion and you’re not a decision-maker).

I can tell you’ve put a lot of thought into this and I think you make good points, I just don’t agree, and I hope you’re wrong.

I, personally, would prefer not to do football only but it may well be in the very best interests of the MW conference to do just that. I would certainly defer to their thinking..They have reportedly engaged with NIU and Toledo and I believe they have also approached a couple of CUSA schools to gauge interest. I assume they have also touched base with you and SDSU. What makes the most sense to you or me is not the key component here. The MW doesn't have to do anything.

I do think they have some plans though, so who knows.

[NDSUstudent]

SHSU says thanks but no thanks to the MWC...

AD Bobby Williams said that Sam Houston St was “asked if we were interested” but he and Pres. White were not because they want to help build CUSA.

https://x.com/TBM_JY/status/1847382173932044740

[BigHorns]

SHSU says thanks but no thanks to the MWC...

https://x.com/TBM_JY/status/1847382173932044740

Anyone with a pulse in Texas gets invited to the party, sigh.

[scottietohottie]

Anyone with a pulse in Texas gets invited to the party, sigh.

Should have moved when Frisco was Fargo south eh and but Brookings with no taco John's.

[BigHorns]

So what if.....We would get an invite to join a conference in FBS contingent on being all in in all sports?
Do the other sports have the desire to move up to the next level as well? (wrestling would be a lateral move of course)
Are we in the position to quickly make that decision?

What do you mean by "move up"? Face better opponents?

The only new requirement for the other sports would be additional travel, and the 90% scholarship requirement coming up in 2027. The FBS scholarship requirement for 16 sports would apply regardless of whether we join MW for all sports or "football only." So the other sports would have a better/tougher schedule and gain additional scholarships. If I'm a good coach, I want this. Maybe if I'm scared of better competition, I don't.

[Twentysix]

What do you mean by "move up"? Face better opponents?

The only new requirement for the other sports would be additional travel, and the 90% scholarship requirement coming up in 2027. The FBS scholarship requirement for 16 sports would apply regardless of whether we join MW for all sports or "football only." So the other sports would have a better/tougher schedule and gain additional scholarships. If I'm a good coach, I want this. Maybe if I'm scared of better competition, I don't.

Doesn't matter what they want. This is a football university. If football requires the other sports to march off a cliff, we will hear the marching.

If a coach objects, just fire them.