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Thread: A new and better FBS thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    Not sure what anyone expects them to do right now.

    The conferences set their own timelines and agenda. And right now they are still flying around the country trying to poach the best FBS teams they can find.

    This phase of craziness has to pass before we get to the adding FCS teams stage. Just like MW wasn’t ever going to move until it became clear what the PAC was going to do. It’s all a cascade that occurs in a predictable sequence. Shit starts at the top and flows downhill.
    Shit rolls downhill and we're still in the Valley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker View Post
    I don’t think this is the case now, but it certainly was before when it would have been much easier. POTU makes the call. I’ll let you guys do the math on that …

    But it’s obvious now that the door on FCS is slamming shut, and I’m not surprised by any of this, fwiw

    PAC and MWC are in a dick measuring contest, and MWC presidents still consider themselves top tier G5, so FCS is the last resort for them

    Can NIU get other sports into the MVC? If so, then they go. No idea about Toledo. MAC refills with Deleware/Umass, and it’s back to CUSA for us and their (relatively) shitty media deal

    I say take it out on the Redbirds this weekend
    The MVC wouldn't even glance in the direction of NIU. Zero chance they come to the aid of a football school that is trash at basketball. Horizon is the best they could hope for.
    NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker View Post
    I don’t think this is the case now, but it certainly was before when it would have been much easier. POTU makes the call. I’ll let you guys do the math on that …
    It is almost like there were reasons he had that feeling, real or perceived.
    He's on record saying he thinks excess funds basically aren't there and they've squeezed about as much from donors as they could. So he didn't see a viable path forward to increase the athletic budget $15+ million annually.
    Students shot down the last attempt to raise athletic fees.
    Enrollment was bottoming out.
    The overall University budget wasn't in a good spot and still has holes in it after he left.

    Maybe he didn't want to roll the dice on leaving a bigger mess than he already had done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc123 View Post
    It is almost like there were reasons he had that feeling, real or perceived.
    He's on record saying he thinks excess funds basically aren't there and they've squeezed about as much from donors as they could. So he didn't see a viable path forward to increase the athletic budget $15+ million annually.
    Students shot down the last attempt to raise athletic fees.
    Enrollment was bottoming out.
    The overall University budget wasn't in a good spot and still has holes in it after he left.

    Maybe he didn't want to roll the dice on leaving a bigger mess than he already had done?
    Seriously, read the thread first before commenting. Listen to McFeely on Dom's show. Unlike UND, NDSU does not fund athletics on the back of students and that is a good thing. They money is there and will be private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotts View Post
    Shit rolls downhill and we're still in the Valley.
    This should be on one of those motivational posters with a scenic background.
    North Dakota State, a football team the big boys of college football should avoid like the plague, helped christen a $90 million renovation to Snyder Family Stadium — including a statue of famed Kansas State coach Bill Snyder himself — by taking a sledgehammer to the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    Seriously, read the thread first before commenting. Listen to McFeely on Dom's show. Unlike UND, NDSU does not fund athletics on the back of students and that is a good thing. They money is there and will be private.
    At this point he should be praying NDSU gets called up. That's the only prayer they have if they ever have FBS aspirations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopher24 View Post
    Sacramento State is not an FBS school. They are building a stadium and announcing their intentions to move to FBS. I would expect NDSU to announce their intentions like all the other top FCS schools which have already moved over. Or they can sit and do nothing.
    Sac St got all the politicians together and raised a shit ton of money to say "look at us" and backed it up by rolling out plans for a new stadium. Big money like that gets some attention in a California market. Doesn't mean they are in, or will get selected over us.

    What are we going to do? Say "hey, we're the best, our team will beat everyone. take us!"

    It would just look desperate unless we announce we're replacing the fargodome next year. We can't even get a bathroom remodel to pass. Everyone in FCS can raise their hands and say pick me. Hell, SDSU can waive the "we're the best" flag too.

    I still haven't seen any rumors about Sac St getting an invite, they are on the sidelines like us until the FBS schools are done. I'll be surprised if they get an invite over FBS options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    Listen to McFeely on Dom's show.
    Gold standard or anti-NDSU schmuck? I lose track.

    Knight DB says NDSU Athletics is $32M now. McF says $42M for FBS.
    Who is shelling out $10M annually (before NIL considerations)?

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    Sac is probably the first FCS option because of population and location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    Sac St got all the politicians together and raised a shit ton of money to say "look at us" and backed it up by rolling out plans for a new stadium. Big money like that gets some attention in a California market. Doesn't mean they are in, or will get selected over us.

    What are we going to do? Say "hey, we're the best, our team will beat everyone. take us!"

    It would just look desperate unless we announce we're replacing the fargodome next year. We can't even get a bathroom remodel to pass. Everyone in FCS can raise their hands and say pick me. Hell, SDSU can waive the "we're the best" flag too.

    I still haven't seen any rumors about Sac St getting an invite, they are on the sidelines like us until the FBS schools are done. I'll be surprised if they get an invite over FBS options.
    it absolutely gets attention in a California market. You are right. Along with all these bottom tier Texas schools getting looks. 5-10 years ago with NDSU winning national championships imagine thinking Missouri State and Sacramento State would be looked at before NDSU to join FBS. It doesn't hurt to put in a little effort and let the conferences know you are interested. NDSU still has leverage. Tons of national championships and an amazing fan base as shown on College Gameday hosting.
    At this pace I can see NDSU joining MAC around 2044 along with Saint Thomas.

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