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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    Already aren’t considered one and never will be again. All they can hope is to be the best G5 conference and with a far western footprint good luck with that.
    Yep. Never will be a P5 again. PAC is just gonna be the new MWC...which was just a new WAC
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    is it safe to assume that it doesn't happen now that it'll probably never happen? at least not in the next decade+?

    because it feels that way.
    I don’t think so. Hell, look at what conferences looked like a year ago, or 3 years ago! Conference realignment will always be happening. Now, I do agree, like I stated before, that this might be the best opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    Already aren’t considered one and never will be again. All they can hope is to be the best G5 conference and with a far western footprint good luck with that.
    They will do everything possible to create that "best of G5" conference, and put themselves at least back on the edge of being considered a power conference. The 4 schools they added are a very big step that direction, and something our MWC friend didn't seem to think would happen (due to exit fees).

    Presuming they've got the money to do so, they will pull a couple from AAC next.

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    Honestly my biggest fear is that SDSU isn’t interested and/or ready for a move up. Auto relegates us to a football only option at best and probably even that would be too much for MW to stomach.
    Mountain West, hope for the best.

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    Has anyone with inside knowledge ever said Air Force wants to be with the other service academies? Always seemed like armchair speculation and nothing more to me.
    Long been known that Air Force almost moved (with CSU and Boise) to the AAC years ago. The only reason Air Force stayed, the other two backed out and they saw their relationship with CSU as important to maintain membership in the MWC. Minus the big 4 (especially CSU) who are leaving, there is no reason for Air Force to stay and both Navy, and Army would love to have them in the AAC. I would not be surprised if the MWC could lose another 2 or 3 additional teams to either the new PAC, or to the AAC with Air Force being one. No, that is not just speculation, I've heard it from West Point alums.

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    is it safe to assume that it doesn't happen now that it'll probably never happen? at least not in the next decade+?

    because it feels that way.
    I lost hope after the last one. If this one doesn’t do it I will have come to grips with the fact that our only chance at G5 is Sicatoka’s weenie hut jr Big Sky/MVFC mashup pipe dream.

    *shudders*
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    I lost hope after the last one. If this one doesn’t do it I will have come to grips with the fact that our only chance at G5 is Sicatoka’s weenie hut jr Big Sky/MVFC mashup pipe dream.

    *shudders*
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    From everything I'm reading, options for Mountain West are CUSA teams in Texas or going after FCS. They will not get AAC or Sun Belt teams; but possible those teams would consider PAC. However, CUSA teams are generally worse football quality than top level FCS, so keeping my fingers crossed. I really think we have a shot here, provided SDSU get their head out of their ass as we need a travel partner for non-rev.
    SDSU has never said they weren't interested in moving. What Sell has said, they would be prepared to move if the right opportunity arose. No way SDSU stays in FCS if they get an invite along with NDSU to leave for the MWC, especially if the Montana schools are involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksfan29! View Post
    Long been known that Air Force almost moved (with CSU and Boise) to the AAC years ago. The only reason Air Force stayed, the other two backed out and they saw their relationship with CSU as important to maintain membership in the MWC. Minus the big 4 (especially CSU) who are leaving, there is no reason for Air Force to stay and both Navy, and Army would love to have them in the AAC. I would not be surprised if the MWC could lose another 2 or 3 additional teams to either the new PAC, or to the AAC with Air Force being one. No, that is not just speculation, I've heard it from West Point alums.
    1. Army and navy are football only members
    1a. Doubt Air Force goes football only to AAC
    1b. How much pull do two bottom dweller football only members have in the AAC?
    2. What does Air Force bring the rest of the conference? What makes SE teams want to fly cross country for a mediocre program to be added?

    I could be wrong but it always just seemed like people wanting to group them together because it seems to make sense. That’s not how conferences work lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    I lost hope after the last one. If this one doesn’t do it I will have come to grips with the fact that our only chance at G5 is Sicatoka’s weenie hut jr Big Sky/MVFC mashup pipe dream.

    *shudders*


    Honestly, thats what some of those proposed PAC tweets look like. And what the MWC is more likely to evolve to.

    MWC will most likely backfill with some "mashup" of Big Sky/MVFC, and I hope we are part of it.
    It will likely be the remainder of MWC combining with "best of FCS"

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