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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    Pretty clear the P4 are the kings now, who will be locking the gates to keep out the rabble. Everyone else will be paupers who feed the kings with fresh talent. I fully expect that as part of the new subdivisions, G5 will lose all participation in CFP, thus all the recent talk about creating their own playoffs.

    The good news in all this I suppose is that G5 will be the new FCS, and once the dust settles it should become easier for us to join that group in some fashion. ML saw this coming, and its playing out like he predicted.
    Don’t let them play FCS teams anymore, make them beat up on each other and G5. I mean this in all seriousness. The SEC loves their creampuff games, and so do the P2 clingers like MN

    I’m saying this under the assumption that ML is smart enough to get us to the second level, the 'new FCS' as you call it. He sure as hell better be …

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    Don’t let them play FCS teams anymore, make them beat up on each other and G5. I mean this in all seriousness. The SEC loves their creampuff games, and so do the P2 clingers like MN

    I’m saying this under the assumption that ML is smart enough to get us to the second level, the 'new FCS' as you call it. He sure as hell better be …
    That would hurt FCS teams who depend on those paydays.

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    That would hurt FCS teams who depend on those paydays.
    Correct, but such schools should not be playing D1 FB in the current landscape as just defined by the NCAA. They need to drop FB or drop down

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    Correct, but such schools should not be playing D1 FB in the current landscape as just defined by the NCAA. They need to drop FB or drop down
    Megadittos.
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    Correct, but such schools should not be playing D1 FB in the current landscape as just defined by the NCAA. They need to drop FB or drop down
    If the schools lose the money from the games, they will suffer financially. If those levels lose the funding provided by the NCAA revenue to underwrite the cost of the championships, I'm not sure if they survive. The lower levels of college sports exist because of the financial support they get from the P4.

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    If the schools lose the money from the games, they will suffer financially. If those levels lose the funding provided by the NCAA revenue to underwrite the cost of the championships, I'm not sure if they survive. The lower levels of college sports exist because of the financial support they get from the P4.

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    That’s the point though. We’re talking about a reset. Create a general revenue stream like they have for the NCAAT to help these schools, but if the P2 are going to take all the marbles and expect us to watch, they should be forced to play all FBS schedules. Better entertainment

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    That’s the point though. We’re talking about a reset. Create a general revenue stream like they have for the NCAAT to help these schools, but if the P2 are going to take all the marbles and expect us to watch, they should be forced to play all FBS schedules. Better entertainment
    They won't be able to generate enough money to cover what they are getting from teams on money games or the money to cover the cost of championships. 85 of the 90 NCAA championship at S1, D2, and D3 lose money. Many of those sports and levels go away if they lose the P4 money, mostly from March Madness which generates 85% of NCAA revenue.

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    They won't be able to generate enough money to cover what they are getting from teams on money games or the money to cover the cost of championships. 85 of the 90 NCAA championship at S1, D2, and D3 lose money. Many of those sports and levels go away if they lose the P4 money, mostly from March Madness which generates 85% of NCAA revenue.

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    No, I’m saying just give them the money without the games or give them more tournament money. No difference. Then they get their share, and we don’t have the boring blowouts. I’m not talking about NDSU level here, but then NDSU hardly gets these games anyways. They are typically chosen to be a W

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    No, I’m saying just give them the money without the games or give them more tournament money. No difference. Then they get their share, and we don’t have the boring blowouts. I’m not talking about NDSU level here, but then NDSU hardly gets these games anyways. They are typically chosen to be a W
    The moves being made by the P5 schools are to keep more of the money they are generating now. If this continues, they will not be sharing that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyBison View Post
    They won't be able to generate enough money to cover what they are getting from teams on money games or the money to cover the cost of championships. 85 of the 90 NCAA championship at S1, D2, and D3 lose money. Many of those sports and levels go away if they lose the P4 money, mostly from March Madness which generates 85% of NCAA revenue.

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    The thing is, that is precisely where this is headed. P2 don't want to subsidize everyone else, they want to maximize their own revenue streams. They are already pushing to fill an expanded NCAA basketball tournament with more P4 teams, and remove/eliminate some of the autobids. It will not be shocking if basketball is the next sport to become subdivided in conference tiers.

    Greed at the top will kill college sports at many schools.

    NIL + free agency style transfers has opened pandoras box, and removed any hope of equality in college sports.
    No way to put the genie back in the bottle now unless congress somehow manages to regulate it in a reasonable fashion.

    P2 may go further yet and cannibalize/absorb the top B12/ACC teams. Some predict only the top 30-40 survive as a mini NFL. They will do all they can to take the vast majority of available media money and timeslots with them.

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