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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    There's a lot more talent than management. This is not sustainable. The overwhelming majority of schools already lose money.
    It's sustainable at some level of pay for the "Q1/Q2" FBS (largely P2-P4) schools. They have $70-100m+ budgets.

    Will create the most problems for G5. Many of them will likely have to cut either entire sports or roster sizes. Some may drop football or divisions.
    May also create problems for FCS. How many can afford to pay athletes even minimum wage across the board?
    Did the Alston settlement exempt FCS? It sounds like paying players is still optional under the settlement?

    No idea what any of this means for D2/3, etc.

    For NCAA as a whole, there will definitely be impacts, the money well isn't limitless.

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    We will most likely see a reemergence of amateurism at the lower levels and semi pro at the higher levels.

    Let DII and III raze and rebuild college athletics and DI create its pay for play model and treat it like the almost pro leagues they already are.

    Local and regional schools creating a network of like minded institutions giving kids the opportunity to participate in sports and create pride and “ownership” in their local communities…. sounds to me like starting over.

    Just like business bigger isn’t always better and losing sight of longevity and stability to chase the shiny objects most often leads to failure when the object dulls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TAILG8R View Post
    We will most likely see a reemergence of amateurism at the lower levels and semi pro at the higher levels.

    Let DII and III raze and rebuild college athletics and DI create its pay for play model and treat it like the almost pro leagues they already are.

    Local and regional schools creating a network of like minded institutions giving kids the opportunity to participate in sports and create pride and “ownership” in their local communities…. sounds to me like starting over.

    Just like business bigger isn’t always better and losing sight of longevity and stability to chase the shiny objects most often leads to failure when the object dulls.


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    This is probably the path forward. Power conferences are going to find out how profitable developmental leagues are
    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogg View Post
    I truly wish it was the smelly Bisons we were playing Saturday. How could you all have shit the bed like that (SHSU)?
    *one day later*


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    You guys are basically asking for most of college athletics to separate itself from the NCAA and that ain’t gonna happen now. No way no how. The more things change the more they stay the same, meet the new boss same as the old boss etc etc

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    I would guess 90% of college athletes are not worthy of financial compensation?
    So many sports that frankly nobody gives a rats ass about.

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    I would guess 90% of college athletes are not worthy of financial compensation?
    So many sports that frankly nobody gives a rats ass about.
    The problem is going to be if Title IX still applies to this it will magnify the costs of any compensation for football and basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker View Post
    You guys are basically asking for most of college athletics to separate itself from the NCAA and that ain’t gonna happen now. No way no how. The more things change the more they stay the same, meet the new boss same as the old boss etc etc
    Why can't DII and DIII conferences have in their bylaws that even though yest legally players can be paid they as a conference do not do that. Stay under the NCAA and put yourself in the right seat.

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    Why can't DII and DIII conferences have in their bylaws that even though yest legally players can be paid they as a conference do not do that. Stay under the NCAA and put yourself in the right seat.
    There should be a way to work this out. The FA in England is in charge of everything from the Premier League to your beer league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    There should be a way to work this out. The FA in England is in charge of everything from the Premier League to your beer league.
    There’s a pretty easy way to work it all out but that would decrease the amount of money available for admin so 0% chance it happens.

    Let the kids sign contracts for their 4 years of school which include a buyout for either side should they want out. Market determines pay rate. Seems to work well for coaches.

    Big schools buying out players from smaller schools would help fund small schools paying their players or athletic depts in general. Also incentivizes kids to not get lowballed by the big schools right out of high school. Small schools get rewarded with finder’s fees if a player gets plucked. Lastly, it penalizes big schools when they poach.

    Took me about 2 minutes to think through. It’s fair, legal, benefits the players and would stabilize the college game for all fans and athletes. So naturally the idea is DOA.
    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogg View Post
    I truly wish it was the smelly Bisons we were playing Saturday. How could you all have shit the bed like that (SHSU)?
    *one day later*


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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    There’s a pretty easy way to work it all out but that would decrease the amount of money available for admin so 0% chance it happens.

    Let the kids sign contracts for their 4 years of school which include a buyout for either side should they want out. Market determines pay rate. Seems to work well for coaches.

    Big schools buying out players from smaller schools would help fund small schools paying their players or athletic depts in general. Also incentivizes kids to not get lowballed by the big schools right out of high school. Small schools get rewarded with finder’s fees if a player gets plucked. Lastly, it penalizes big schools when they poach.

    Took me about 2 minutes to think through. It’s fair, legal, benefits the players and would stabilize the college game for all fans and athletes. So naturally the idea is DOA.
    The FTC recently banned most non-compete clauses. 28 states have Right To Work laws. The Johnson case will almost certainly make all D1 athletes employees. Hopefully D3 is spared, but no guarantees.
    Federal and State laws trump NCAA bylaws.

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