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    I poached this off the csnbbs board from an attendance smack thread. I'm not sure it means anything but is interesting in regards to what kind of capacity we need long term for an FBS move. 25,000 would put us pretty much in the middle of the pack. Most of these games outside of Wyoming hosting Texas Tech were home openers against lesser quality opponents.

    SBC home attendance week 1
    App - 36,075
    USM - 30,335
    Troy - 28,179
    Marshall - 25,101
    JMU - 23,756
    ULM - 18,914
    ULL - 18,186 (*scanner problems, should be higher)
    GaSo - 17,803
    GaSt - 15,546

    AAC
    Tulane - 26,973
    Memphis - 26,632
    UAB - 25,363
    SMU - 21,490
    UNT - 21,350
    FAU - 20,893
    Charlotte - 15,622 (100% cap)
    Tulsa- 17,529
    Temple - 12,456

    CUSA
    UTEP - 30,738
    J’ville St - 21,276
    Liberty - 18,811
    NM St - 17,943
    FIU - 16,878
    WKU - 15,438

    MWC
    Colorado State - 31,497
    Air Force - 30,142
    Wyoming - 26,450
    SDSU - 22,345
    UNLV - 20,347

    FCS
    Montana - 25,430 (sellout)
    Montana State - 21,967 (sellout)
    SDSU - 16,258
    UN_ - 8503
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBison View Post
    I poached this off the csnbbs board from an attendance smack thread. I'm not sure it means anything but is interesting in regards to what kind of capacity we need long term for an FBS move. 25,000 would put us pretty much in middle of the pack.

    SBC home attendance week 1
    App - 36,075
    USM - 30,335
    Troy - 28,179
    Marshall - 25,101
    JMU - 23,756
    ULM - 18,914
    ULL - 18,186 (*scanner problems, should be higher)
    GaSo - 17,803
    GaSt - 15,546

    AAC
    Tulane - 26,973
    Memphis - 26,632
    UAB - 25,363
    SMU - 21,490
    UNT - 21,350
    FAU - 20,893
    Charlotte - 15,622 (100% cap)
    Tulsa- 17,529
    Temple - 12,456

    CUSA
    UTEP - 30,738
    J’ville St - 21,276
    Liberty - 18,811
    NM St - 17,943
    FIU - 16,878
    WKU - 15,438

    I think it's more about revenue than seats. If the dome expansion happens in December, we will have high donor club seats up top and premium party deck seats in the SE corner.

    More food and beverage revenue with the expanded concourse

    Also more TM revenue by utilizing the indoor space the Comvention Center will provide

    Not only that, a better fan experience will bump attendance

    Without the expansion, all we can do is raise prices on what we got
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    I think it's more about revenue than seats. If the dome expansion happens in December, we will have high donor club seats up top and premium party deck seats in the SE corner.

    More food and beverage revenue with the expanded concourse

    Also more TM revenue by utilizing the indoor space the Comvention Center will provide

    Not only that, a better fan experience will bump attendance

    Without the expansion, all we can do is raise prices on what we got
    Agree, our expansion plans are fine.
    IF we move to FBS, then in 5 or 10 years maybe we'll have to consider something else.

    What is ironic is out of all those conferences AAC is the only one that has made a large capacity stadium a condition of entry. And now with the loss of UCF, Houston and Cincinnati they have smaller crowds than some of the other G5.

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    This team just got into the ACC, so I don't think stadium capacity is an issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    This team just got into the ACC, so I don't think stadium capacity is an issue.

    That's more than the dome
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness View Post
    That's more than the dome
    Capacity is 32k, but they "officially" had 21k last week.
    Thing is attendance is over reported often due to the 15k rule.
    If you look at recent game photos, it seems likely they have 15k or less actually at the games.
    That stadium is not 2/3 filled.

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    SMU clearly will have to increase their stadium; fact of the matter is they will start drawing better in the ACC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    SMU clearly will have to increase their stadium; fact of the matter is they will start drawing better in the ACC.
    Wake Forest's stadium is that size. They don't need to expand, though they may choose to.
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    I don’t think this has been posted yet:

    https://apple.news/Avxd-svWiT4uklHQVWy7S2g

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCWaters View Post
    I don’t think this has been posted yet:

    https://apple.news/Avxd-svWiT4uklHQVWy7S2g
    Interesting that they believe there will only be 5 conference AQ bids for 2024.
    Don't believe that's official yet, but changes could be brewing.

    Sankey/SEC was pushing the idea earlier of no AQs, which would make it rare for a G5 to get in.

    If they go to 5 AQs and WSU/OSU join MWC under PAC banner, the rest of G5 could be screwed.
    P4 champs will always get bids.

    My guess is revamped MWC would get it 50-70% of time, maybe AAC 20-30% and SBC 10% of time.
    It would be the norm to see MWC or AAC in, and MWC might even get dang near a lock on it.

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