A new and better FBS thread

[Hammerhead]

Did the 8 teams leaving the Pac-12 pay an exit fee? If so, all of those funds should be controlled by the remaining four to entice new members.

This is so hard to predict. Standord, Cal, Washington State and Oregon State have more drawing power for a TV contraxt than the entire Mountain West Combined. Unlike the Mountain West, who has a crappy TV deal (4 million pet school average) to split among 4 more teams, the 4 Pac 12 teams can negotiate a better deal if they poach Boise, San Diego State, Colorado State and Fresno. Then they are up to 8 teams. That would leave the Mountain West with 7

But you have the exit fees. Maybe the PAC 12 has some money in reserve to help pay them?

The Mountain West TV deal goes through 2025-2026. Can the renegotiate? Then again the PAC 12 has no deal which is good and bad. But poaching their remaining 4 schools has no exit fee

But I can see a short term scheduling arrangement for sure.

Then again, I dont believe the Big 10 is done with 4 west coast schools. It just doesnt make sense

[BigHorns]

Cautionary? Seems like they just hit the jackpot.

In what way did OSU and Wazzu hit the jackpot?

The PAC just fell apart, and they are left dangling in the winds, looking for a lifeline.
Right now it looks like they are going from big money PAC to small money MWC.

Wazzu was already subsidized with $15m year from the school and student fees, and almost all of that goes to debt service for their stadium.
Now, they are going to take a huge hit to the revenue side too. Can they even afford to keep operating without more subsidies?

There will almost certainly be cuts to the OSU/WSU programs. They went from being "big time" to "small time" in FBS overnight.

[NDSU92]

Did the 8 teams leaving the Pac-12 pay an exit fee? If so, all of those funds should be controlled by the remaining four to entice new members.

No exit fees

[bruinbison]

The Big 10 is becoming the professional super league that will take the top teams and split with the SEC in a NFC/AFC style.
They don't need or want 100 teams, maybe 24 or so each. Thats larger than the NFL.

When I think about the events of this week, and how quickly the PAC was torn apart, it does make me a little sad. We are doing all this just to turn the top of college sports into Pro teams chasing money. The old NCAA system is rapidly dying.

Maybe there is hope for whatever emerges as the second tier out of this mess, I'm not sure. But until they put some structures in place that can even the playing field a bit, its just all one unending mega money chase now.

NDSU will never be in the top tier of this new system. If we are fortunate, maybe someday we can be part of a more rational second tier. I just have no idea how long that will take.

There are signs of that out there still.
Talk of re-examining what the new college playoff will look like is out there already with these dramatic changes.

Ross Dellenger
@RossDellenger
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Two CFP commissioners tell
@YahooSports
that the 6+6 expansion format should be re-examined (not surprising).

Starting in 2024, 6 highest-ranked conference champs get at-large spots & next 6 highest-ranked teams get at-large spots.

It would be no surprise to see the Power conferences, however they do it, leave some/all of those G5 conferences behind…

Perhaps the G5/Top Tier FCS is a stronger possibility today than last week…
Somebody needs to come in with some money for televising/streaming such a playoff and that would grease the skids…

[NDSU92]

There are signs of that out there still.
Talk of re-examining what the new college playoff will look like is out there already with these dramatic changes.



It would be no surprise to see the Power conferences, however they do it, leave some/all of those G5 conferences behind…

Perhaps the G5/Top Tier FCS is a stronger possibility today than last week…

Didn’t take the power conferences long to do the ol’ bait and switch, huh?

[BigHorns]

Perhaps the G5/Top Tier FCS is a stronger possibility today than last week…
Somebody needs to come in with some money for televising/streaming such a playoff and that would grease the skids…

Well, you have a good point on the CFP, the top conferences are already talking about making the bids ALL at large, to cut the G5 out.

If there's a split, the money to setup a new Tier 2 structure and playoff is going to be the challenge.
P2 have been sucking all the money out of the system now, and everyone else is getting crumbs.

Maybe we need this split to hurry up and happen, so the remnants can go organize something else.

[TAILG8R]

They might draw more viewers if the games were played in the afternoon on the west coast although then there are more games going on at the same time across the country.

A second tier or streaming service isn’t going to want to compete with the major networks at those times.


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[BigHorns]

A second tier or streaming service isn’t going to want to compete with the major networks at those times.


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Thats the challenge - all the top networks/time slots and money are being consolidated to the top couple conferences.
They are concentrating the wealth rather than spreading it. Costs are also escalating to reach or remain in that tier.

Maybe the G5 end up in the same place as FCS, hard to say. The top tier wants separation.
Its going to be the same problem FCS has, lack of money and investment.

[taper]

A second tier or streaming service isn’t going to want to compete with the major networks at those times.


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A streaming service isn't going to get any subscribers that wouldn't already watch the PAC over other games. It's just a slightly bigger version of CAA's FloSports deal.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

ESPN/FOX basically decided what the top level of CFB will look like
Odds are pretty good they’ll decide what the 2nd level looks like too, and I agree that it won't include most of the FCS

There are signs of that out there still.
Talk of re-examining what the new college playoff will look like is out there already with these dramatic changes.



It would be no surprise to see the Power conferences, however they do it, leave some/all of those G5 conferences behind…

Perhaps the G5/Top Tier FCS is a stronger possibility today than last week…
Somebody needs to come in with some money for televising/streaming such a playoff and that would grease the skids…