A new and better FBS thread

[BigLakeBison]

Not sure how SDSU is at near or peak hype yet either. We'll probably learn a bit more about that in the next few years.

I agree. I think SDSU’s fanbase is in a similar stage as NDSU’s was in the 80’s. Further sustained success is going to have a positive impact. There are a lot more young kids in SD growing up being Jackrabbit sports fans. That wasn’t really the case when I was a kid. It’s noticeable.

[IndyBison]

Fair enough but they are 180 miles further south than us. How much that matters is debatable.

It may have a little impact for recruits in Omaha or Kansas City. A little shorter drive for their family to attend games.

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[BigLakeBison]

It may have a little impact for recruits in Omaha or Kansas City. A little shorter drive for their family to attend games.

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I was talking more about conference affiliation but I guess recruiting would apply as well. I acknowledge that their geography isn't vastly better than ours but I was just trying to show that SDSU is every bit NDSU's equal in a lot of ways. In my opinion there isn't this huge gap and I also believe that they have done a good job of setting themselves up to grow even more.

[El_Chapo]

I was talking more about conference affiliation but I guess recruiting would apply as well. I acknowledge that their geography isn't vastly better than ours but I was just trying to show that SDSU is every bit NDSU's equal in a lot of ways. In my opinion there isn't this huge gap and I also believe that they have done a good job of setting themselves up to grow even more.

False. NDSU/Fargo is 250,000 pop and add in Western Minnesota & ND NDSU is a Giant.

SDSU/Brookings is like having a college in Fergus Falls. SDSU will die suddenly, I actually give them props for doing so much with so little.

[IndyBison]

I was talking more about conference affiliation but I guess recruiting would apply as well. I acknowledge that their geography isn't vastly better than ours but I was just trying to show that SDSU is every bit NDSU's equal in a lot of ways. In my opinion there isn't this huge gap and I also believe that they have done a good job of setting themselves up to grow even more.

Agreed with that. In the big scheme of things, they are much more similar than different. I know that's hard for many Bison fans to admit. Same with the school north of Fargo.

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[NDSU92]

Agreed with that. In the big scheme of things, they are much more similar than different. I know that's hard for many Bison fans to admit. Same with the school north of Fargo.

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Yes, but again the areas where we are different are areas that will take a long time to change. Brookings, outdoor stadium in SD, alumni/donor/fan base/etc. In terms of SDSU’s appeal to a potential FBS conference, they are not where we are at. That is just a fact.

That is where this conversation started and now it’s getting twisted into “NDSU fans are scared of SDSU”. SDSU has had a better football program than us for the last 3 years in my opinion but that doesn’t mean much in the FBS conversation. NDSU has a better football program than some P5 schools and yet here we sit.

For the reasons I stated, I truly don’t think SDSU is going FBS before NDSU. It is very likely that the XDSUs move up together, as like you said they are similar schools and both fit the profile of a G5 athletic department.

[ByeSonBusiness]

False. NDSU/Fargo is 250,000 pop and add in Western Minnesota & ND NDSU is a Giant.

SDSU/Brookings is like having a college in Fergus Falls. SDSU will die suddenly, I actually give them props for doing so much with so little.

If NDSU gets some weird claim on NW Minnesota then surely it follows that SDSU gets some weird claim on SW Minnesota?

Regardless, neither NDSU nor SDSU are in any sort of position claim some sort of "Giant" status. Nor will either ever become one.

[heffray]

If NDSU gets some weird claim on NW Minnesota then surely it follows that SDSU gets some weird claim on SW Minnesota?

Regardless, neither NDSU nor SDSU are in any sort of position claim some sort of "Giant" status. Nor will either ever become one.

Total anecdote here, but I knew a bunch of people in SW MN, basically in Brookings’ backyard, and they were all Goopher fans. Fwiw…

[ByeSonBusiness]

Total anecdote here, but I knew a bunch of people in SW MN, basically in Brookings’ backyard, and they were all Goopher fans. Fwiw…

My anecdote was similar. Went to a dorm friend's hometown for the weekend, and half his friends were SDSU guys. Though all of them (ndsu and sdsu) liked the Gophers.

[El_Chapo]

Total anecdote here, but I knew a bunch of people in SW MN, basically in Brookings’ backyard, and they were all Goopher fans. Fwiw…

SW MINN huge Gophers fans. no sdsu fans at all