A new and better FBS thread

[Mr Pep Band]

I'm not sure how this relates to what I said in my post

This is the Internet. We spew stuff out like a firehose against a wall.

But if you would like me to directly comment on your post #9655:

Maybe the NDSU-Montana & Weber-UND games didn't draw well due to the fact that is 2022 and there are more entertainment options and digital viewing options then ever before. I was disappointed by the turnouts for both, but what can I as a fan do about it, not much. Nor am I willing or able to put in the time, money, or effort to change that.

I went to the Montana game and cheered. I watched most of the Weber-UND game because I have ESPN+.

I plead the FIRST when I poke fun at the bowl system and the four-team "playoff". And playoff is being generous, its more like an invitational.

[Gully]

Remember, if we go FBS there will be no more Nationals Championships.

There will be only Toilet Bowls, and the occasional nicer bowl late in December or early January when there is a great season.

And before you rag on me saying they we could not compete for one, ask this.....do you actually think NDSU could beat Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Georgia, Clemson, ND, etc. in the "college football playoffs". Seriously?

I would love to beat the big boys just as much as anyone else. But I'm also a realist, that would be a long shot of a bet.

Agreed, but is anyone really arguing that point? I don't think anyone seriously thinks NDSU can win in a playoff with those teams. Maybe they could hope to win a game or something. It would be more like getting into the NCAA bb tournament.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

You are correct. Bowls aren't what they used to be. With the 12 team CFP, bowls are now officially (if they weren't already) exhibitions. The goal of FBS is to win your conference, play a better schedule and maybe get to the CFP. It's not about bowl games.

100 %, but it’s a mindset that people can’t see until they are there, apparently, much like resistance to moving up to FCS from D2. By staying stationary at the top of FCS - with schools like JMU leaving and UIW and MSU closing in - NDSU limits its growth as a program because it has hit the ceiling and is essentially stuck in place

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

I plead the FIRST when I poke fun at the bowl system and the four-team "playoff". And playoff is being generous, its more like an invitational.

It will be 12 very soon

[Mr Pep Band]

It will be 12 very soon

And I am very glad it will be.

[ByeSonBusiness]

UTSA & Troy play in the Duluth Trading Cure Bowl on December 16th. Both teams are 11-2 and ranked 24 & 25.

Fresno State is 9-4 and plays in Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl on the 17th against Washington State who is 7-5.

Boise Stat (9-4) plays North Texas (7-6) in the Frisco Bowl on the 17th.

I'm not following here?

[NDSU92]

This is the Internet. We spew stuff out like a firehose against a wall.

But if you would like me to directly comment on your post #9655:

Maybe the NDSU-Montana & Weber-UND games didn't draw well due to the fact that is 2022 and there are more entertainment options and digital viewing options then ever before. I was disappointed by the turnouts for both, but what can I as a fan do about it, not much. Nor am I willing or able to put in the time, money, or effort to change that.

I went to the Montana game and cheered. I watched most of the Weber-UND game because I have ESPN+.

I plead the FIRST when I poke fun at the bowl system and the four-team "playoff". And playoff is being generous, its more like an invitational.

Sure, but the bowl games are going against the same headwinds as FCS playoff games.

The overarching point here is that the bowls are not the reason to go FBS, at least not initially. It's to continue growing the brand, play similarly-resourced programs, and be amongst our peers. In my opinion, that is where NDSU is best-served as a university.

That last point is the reason why I want NDSU to make a push to go. Not because it serves my ego, or because "FBS go burrrr" Lakes-math misgivings, or whatever other made up ulterior motive people ascribe to the FBS crew.

[MWC]

You are correct. Bowls aren't what they used to be. With the 12 team CFP, bowls are now officially (if they weren't already) exhibitions. The goal of FBS is to win your conference, play a better schedule and maybe get to the CFP. It's not about bowl games.

For the vast majority of FBS, OOC games are also meaningless exhibitions. Those games are just about money. Teams are either getting money to play a road game or spending money to play at home.

I preferred the olden days when it wasn't about money all the time.

[NDSU92]

For the vast majority of FBS, OOC games are also meaningless exhibitions. Those games are just about money. Teams are either getting money to play a road game or spending money to play at home.

I preferred the olden days when it wasn't about money all the time.

Yeah, the "either you play for a championship, or it's just an exhibition" crowd are so misguided. It's awesome that in FCS we've been able to play for championships. The reality is that NONE of our other sports will EVER play for a championship ever in D1. Does that make all of NDSU's non-football sports just exhibitions then?

Why can't people just enjoy good people, good football and good times?

"It's just an exhibition!" lol

[Mr Pep Band]

Sure, but the bowl games are going against the same headwinds as FCS playoff games.

The overarching point here is that the bowls are not the reason to go FBS, at least not initially. It's to continue growing the brand, play similarly-resourced programs, and be amongst our peers. In my opinion, that is where NDSU is best-served as a university.

That last point is the reason why I want NDSU to make a push to go. Not because it serves my ego, or because "FBS go burrrr" Lakes-math misgivings, or whatever other made up ulterior motive people ascribe to the FBS crew.

Agreed, the university needs should take priority. I hope that sports needs would come second to the University and its primary purpose, higher learning.