A new and better FBS thread

[NDSU92]

I don't think anyone said it was, but those are the only 2 that you've mentioned when discussing the increase in costs. Again, you specifically stated all $5M was going to come from an increase in conference revenue and that no additional fundraising is needed. The math shows the former isn't true and while you apparently know better than the outgoing President, he doesn't think the latter has a ton of room for a significant increase.
The question I asked from the start was since those aren't the only 2 ways to generate income, where is the remaining $2M+ that needs to be generated annually going to come from?

$2M equates to the delta that 2 road P5 games could pay out above what we make from bringing in a butler or nc a&t
$2M equates to approximately $5.50 per credit in student fees

Take your pick or split it down the middle. We haven't even started talking about ticket sales or merchandise yet

[BigHorns]

How many fans would be in the Fargodome to watch some bottom-feeder G5 team willing to travel to Fargo for one of the three home games we might be lucky to get as an independent?

Exactly the problem. Imagine we only get something like Bowling Green, FIU and UTEP for home games.
Combine that with absolutely no shot at the CFP bid, and a very long shot at any type of a Bowl game.

I think the program would go downhill far faster than many here think possible with those conditions.
We would be like UConn and UMass desperately seeking a conference home.

Why not get things right to start with, and land in a good spot?

[The_Sicatoka]

How many fans would be in the Fargodome to watch some bottom-feeder G5 team willing to travel to Fargo for one of the three home games we might be lucky to get as an independent?

NCAA DI Manual, Figure 20-1 (FBS scheduling requirements):
At least 60% of all games must be played against FBS members and at least five home games against members of FBS

That's another reason why indy-status is hard: scheduling. Conference affiliation solves that problem.

[El_Chapo]

How many fans would be in the Fargodome to watch some bottom-feeder G5 team willing to travel to Fargo for one of the three home games we might be lucky to get as an independent?

we get 19000 for fucking drake/Valeo. cmon man.

NDSU vs Tulsa in Fargodome is a sellout
NDSU vs Toledo sellout
NDSU vs Jmu Sellout


whos #1 in defense right now in FBS?

JMU..... that could be us

[BigHorns]

we get 19000 for fucking drake/Valeo. cmon man.

NDSU vs Tulsa in Fargodome is a sellout
NDSU vs Toledo sellout
NDSU vs Jmu Sellout

Probably should decide which side of the coin you want to argue.

You constantly say "pud" opponents are killing attendance, yet now you argue we show up big for pud opponents.
Either playing pud opponents matters or it doesn't.

JMU never agreed to a game outside of the playoffs, why would that change for FBS?

NDSU vs MSU - sellout
NDSU vs SDSU - faster sellout

I'm all for joining a fbs conference that has good rivals and makes sense.

[El_Chapo]

NDSU to AAC? This should be a bigger focal point of NDSU'S pitch to conferences ASAP. we can HELP you on the field even if we are a financial outlier.. (and NDSU can make concessions to help with that)

message board fodder.

"* IF the AAC was shrewder than it is, NDSU already would have been invited.

Over the past decade, North Dakota State would have made any of the G5 conferences - and some, if not all of the P5 conferences - better than they were & it'll be important for future CFP prospects!"

[ByeSonBusiness]

NDSU to AAC? This should be a bigger focal point of NDSU'S pitch to conferences ASAP. we can HELP you on the field even if we are a financial outlier.. (and NDSU can make concessions to help with that)

message board fodder.

"* IF the AAC was shrewder than it is, NDSU already would have been invited.

Over the past decade, North Dakota State would have made any of the G5 conferences - and some, if not all of the P5 conferences - better than they were & it'll be important for future CFP prospects!"

We aren't getting into the premier G5 conference lol

[KSBisonFan]

NDSU to AAC? This should be a bigger focal point of NDSU'S pitch to conferences ASAP. we can HELP you on the field even if we are a financial outlier.. (and NDSU can make concessions to help with that)

message board fodder.

"* IF the AAC was shrewder than it is, NDSU already would have been invited.

Over the past decade, North Dakota State would have made any of the G5 conferences - and some, if not all of the P5 conferences - better than they were & it'll be important for future CFP prospects!"

And again, football isn't the only thing factoring into a conference invitation.

[The_Sicatoka]

The AAC, a conference where the closest member to Fargo is Wichita State, and that spans from there to San Antonio, to Miami, to Philly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...tic_Conference

That makes the Mountain West seem proximal.

[BigHorns]

We aren't getting into the premier G5 conference lol

I'd love to see us join the AAC, but there are several things working against it:

1) they value Basketball highly. Very unlikely for them to extend a football only invite.
2) they are still somewhat of a South East regional conference. They explored expanding towards the west, but they wouldn't do that for one team.
3) they are at 14 members going forward and have no need to expand right now.
4) new members only receive around $2m per year, legacy members get $7m.

Our best chance at the AAC would be if they got poached by a P5 again.
In that scenario, they likely look to backfill with regional SBC or CUSA teams.
MTSU is hoping they get that invite. WKU would be interested also.

MWC getting poached by PAC is our best path. And it looks very possible that happens.