CONFERENCE? WE DONT NEED NO STINKING CONFERENCE. (Picture of bison smoking)
WE AREN’T DEPENDENT ON THEM.
they were ALWAYS depending on us.
INDEPENDENT BISON. ROBOTIC DOMINANCE.
TM
CONFERENCE? WE DONT NEED NO STINKING CONFERENCE. (Picture of bison smoking)
WE AREN’T DEPENDENT ON THEM.
they were ALWAYS depending on us.
INDEPENDENT BISON. ROBOTIC DOMINANCE.
TM
Y'all sure you want in a conference with this much FG talent?
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How do all of those programs compare in terms of funding and success relative to the conferences we are hoping to get an invite from? The reality is that our non-football sports aren't going to appeal to the conferences that we want our football in. It's reality. Until that changes, I believe the football program is stuck. That's where I feel the biggest issue lies. We don't want to take funding from football to improve the other sports and risk our football program slipping. And the donor base is much more passionate about football (both because of success and also because the Ath. Dept. has focused so heavily on promoting it) and desires to see its funding be spent on football more than other areas. If we stay the status quo, it is going to be a very long road to get to a better conference. That doesn't mean that we have to go backwards. Just means that it is going to be a continued path of uneven results and slow growth for our non-football sports coupled with dominance from our football program. Both of those seem to be creating apathy within the fanbase. No easy solution, I'm just having a difficult time getting excited by the status quo and I think many others are as well.
I agree with the following: We need to improve our non-football sports. You're arguing with me on the thing that we agree on...
The point you were making that I disagree with is that football is causing the other sports to suffer like what happens at UND with their hockey team. Again, I'd argue that the football program is currently funding and subsidizing the other programs, so to say that the football program's success is at the detriment of the other programs is incorrect. On top of that, we're not even sniffing the MW without the football program that we have. The In Our Hands campaign doesn't go nearly as well as it did without the amazing NDSU Bison brand that our football program has built for the University.
Yes, ideally we'd have a MW-funded basketball program. But we're not in the Mountain West are we? It'd sure help to have the extra millions of dollars per year that the Mountain West teams get. That's not the fault of football program. To the contrary, the football program is the reason we're even having this conversation.
This compares median of the bottom 25% of FBS* to UND and NDSU: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/1c43c126
This compares median MAC and median MWC to UND and NDSU: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/ee825a60
*If the worst FBS is "1" and the best FBS is "100", the median of the bottom 25% is nominally "12".
People talking about MWC and "travel" when Hawaii is in the conference pisses me off bro.
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I like where NDSU is at. Add in the millions of dollars from the conference and we're approaching median. And we're not even in the conference yet.
Are you able to take UND's athletics budget into account without hockey spend? There's a reason UND spends as much on athletics as NDSU and has consistently underperformed in all comparable sports. I'll let you pick your excuse