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[NDSU92]

Boise state was 7-5…. San Diego state was 12-2, and oh by the way, beat Boise state during the season….San Diego state played in the Tropical Smoothie Cafe FRISCO bowl…so as usual, you are wrong.


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Yeah I mean if you’re too lazy to check sagarin or any other ratings it’s probably not worth arguing. San Diego State isn’t the best team in the MW, and therefore didn’t make the best bowl out of MW teams.

Facts are facts bud, sorry

[23Bison]

Boise State. University of Cincinnati. UCF.

All three examples of schools that for multiple years would be have been included in the 12 team playoff during their success. No Sci Fi, nothing made up.

Big time conference? Up until the past couple years the Valley was near a wash with the MW and better than the MAC. I think we’ve done just fine. Unbiased computer ratings, no sci-fi, nothing made up. Give us 22 more scholarships and I’m even more confident the “grind” doesn’t get us down.

Anywhere else you want to move the goalposts? Or are you just going to say that it all doesn’t matter due to geography (which is probably right, barring some wild circumstances) and move on, until you see some crap bowl on TV and come back using it as a reason to not go FBS?

Didn’t Western Michigan also make it to one against Wisconsin when the Ol’ car salesman himself PJ was coaching?

[cx500d]

Well unsurprising that you’re completely wrong. Wanna try again? Here’s a hint, use the internet to look up which team won each conference. Neither of those teams played in Frisco.

You can even use Sagarin ratings if you want to pick “best team” from each. Again, neither of those teams played in Frisco.

Utah State (MW champ) beat Oregon State in Los Angeles
Northern Illinois (MAC champ) lost to Coastal Carolina in Orlando
Boise State (MW highest rated) is playing Central Michigan (MAC highest rated) in… a NYE bowl in Tucson.

No Frisco, all better games in better locations (I would know, I live 1.5 miles from Toyota Stadium in Frisco).

Even then, all teams had at least 3 losses. They didn’t have the best season that they could. What I posted above for bowl games is not even the ceiling or what we would define as a great season. Boise State is the highest rated team at 28 in Sagarin. We’ve had at least one team finish above that in recent memory.

Are you out of you effing mind? Boise State was 7-5; there were 4 teams above them in the MWC, and another tied with them at 5-3 in conference.....San Diego State was 12-2...oh, by the way, San Diego State beat Boise State head to head in the regular season. And, by the way, San Diego State played in the Smoothie Cafe FRISCO bowl.

wow a NYE bowl against Central michigan. That's our future? The barstool sports bowl...wow.

[daddy daycare]

NDSU fans use Sagarin because it’s one of the best, consistently updated and includes FCS with FBS.

The hardest part apparently to getting some people on board with FBS is getting them to understand that going 6-6 and playing in the Frisco bowl is not the ceiling for a G5 school. But, people see a lower bowl on tv and it triggers their confirmation bias.

The reality of the situation is playing in the Frisco Bowl is the more likely scenario....of course we have no clue what conference we are talking about with NDSU.

[NDSU92]

Are you out of you effing mind? Boise State was 7-5; there were 4 teams above them in the MWC, and another tied with them at 5-3 in conference.....San Diego State was 12-2...oh, by the way, San Diego State beat Boise State head to head in the regular season. And, by the way, San Diego State played in the Smoothie Cafe FRISCO bowl.

wow a NYE bowl against Central michigan. That's our future? The barstool sports bowl...wow.

Feel free to learn how to read before I have to repeat myself for the 3rd time

[NDSU92]

The reality of the situation is playing in the Frisco Bowl is the more likely scenario....of course we have no clue what conference we are talking about with NDSU.

Of course it’s the more likely reality. People only make the championship in every single year when they’re playing a subdivision below where they should be.

Should Clemson move down to FCS because they’re more likely to win a championship here?

[cx500d]

Feel free to learn how to read before I have to repeat myself for the 3rd time

Jeez, the CFP ranking has San Diego State at 24....Where's Boise in the CFP rankings?

The coaches poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. The AP poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. All you have is the Sagarin poll which in this case is ridiculous given it has Boise higher than 4 teams that beat them head to head....

[Gully]

Jeez, the CFP ranking has San Diego State at 24....Where's Boise in the CFP rankings?

The coaches poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. The AP poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. All you have is the Sagarin poll which in this case is ridiculous given it has Boise higher than 4 teams that beat them head to head....

Well, it's not a poll so.......

[NDSU92]

Jeez, the CFP ranking has San Diego State at 24....Where's Boise in the CFP rankings?

The coaches poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. The AP poll doesn't have Boise above San Diego State. All you have is the Sagarin poll which in this case is ridiculous given it has Boise higher than 4 teams that beat them head to head....

All those you reference are human bias polls, notoriously slanted towards win/loss. Your point about head to head is fair, but game outcomes are one data point in a season of them. Would you argue SDSU is better than us because of one game? Or Indy State was better than us in 2012?

It’s all kinda sports talk semantics, at the end of the day there’s a MW and a MAC team playing on NYE. That much can’t be argued. Neither can the fact that both teams would be better competition for us than Montana State, the game will be better attended, the location is better and the tv ratings will be higher.

[daddy daycare]

All those you reference are human bias polls, notoriously slanted towards win/loss. Your point about head to head is fair, but game outcomes are one data point in a season of them. Would you argue SDSU is better than us because of one game? Or Indy State was better than us in 2012?

It’s all kinda sports talk semantics, at the end of the day there’s a MW and a MAC team playing on NYE. That much can’t be argued. Neither can the fact that both teams would be better competition for us than Montana State, the game will be better attended, the location is better and the tv ratings will be higher.

Great. 2 conferences NDSU won't get into playing a game. Sounds amazing.