A new and better FBS thread

[StecMSU]

Does SIU or MSU have high enough attendance to even think of joining FBS? Both were at ~6500 in 2019. I fell like they value being in the MVC WAY more than bringing their marginal FB programs to the FBS by moving all sports to the CUSA. Any MVC school is a stretch to leave that conference. Jacksonville St and Sam Houston are closer and better options for the CUSA

2019 was before Bobby Petrino was named head football coach. Things have changed.

Bobby and the de facto coach in waiting Nick P want to move up so the school president and athletic director want it too now. Springfield businesses want it but there is pushback from faculty and the Board of Governors. If Conference USA asks nicely then we will probably go and try and take some MVC schools with us so that we aren't the only bad guy.

I would love to see NDSU and SDSU join us. Maybe even the Yotes and the Fighting Hawks too. The Indiana State beat guy wrote a column today about how Missouri State should stay. He probably knows that he could soon be the beat reporter for a team in the Great Lakes Valley Conference. Evansville and Northern Iowa are in similar situations.

[noryan34]

New reshaped C-USA

West Division
North Dakota State (football only)
South Dakota State (football only)
Montana (football only)
Montana State (football only)
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
UTEP
New Mexico State

East Division
FIU *
Louisiana Tech *
Middle Tennessee *
Western Kentucky *
Jacksonville State
Central Arkansas
UMass (football only)
UConn (football only)

Arkansas-Little Rock and UT-Arlington are rumored to be joining as full conference members but not in football so that would be 12 non football teams

Then when the Mountain West Collapses in a few years, the 2 Montana and 2 Dakota schools

This hits on topic I was thinking. That no matter what conference NDSU would join they would be a geographical outlier. I think it may be hard to get a conference to want a single team on the outskirts of their range that doesnt increase TV revenue or recruiting footprint in a meaningful way. Before all this realignment what conference has a team that doesnt have at least another conference member in state or in a neighbor state (excluding Hawaii) ...... Buffalo (still within 5 hr of drive of multiple teams) and 2 Big12 teams (ISU, WVU)... thats it

Leaving the best option for NDSU move up to have a partner or two. Preferably one geographically closer to NDSU. This would also help NDSU maintain some rivalry with a team nearby. Only see a couple teams that could fit that bill, SDSU and Montana and to a lesser extent UND or Montana State.

I think ideally the PAC12 poaches Boise and San Diego State.. The MWC tell Hawaii to go pound sand and they add NDSU, and two of Montana, SDSU, Montana State

[NDSUguy]

This hits on topic I was thinking. That no matter what conference NDSU would join they would be a geographical outlier. I think it may be hard to get a conference to want a single team on the outskirts of their range that doesnt increase TV revenue or recruiting footprint in a meaningful way. Before all this realignment what conference has a team that doesnt have at least another conference member in state or in a neighbor state (excluding Hawaii) ...... Buffalo (still within 5 hr of drive of multiple teams) and 2 Big12 teams (ISU, WVU)... thats it

Leaving the best option for NDSU move up to have a partner or two. Preferably one geographically closer to NDSU. This would also help NDSU maintain some rivalry with a team nearby. Only see a couple teams that could fit that bill, SDSU and Montana and to a lesser extent UND or Montana State.

I think ideally the PAC12 poaches Boise and San Diego State.. The MWC tell Hawaii to go pound sand and they add NDSU, and two of Montana, SDSU, Montana State

since ndsu is an outlier, before any offer would come from the MWC, i'm sure that they would want to see some FBS success. After all, the MWC can always go to texas and find teams that already have proven that they can hang in the FBS. If however, NDSU were to be an established FBS program and could raise the profile of the conference in terms of on-field production that might sway them. There is no way they would take FCS NDSU.

[noryan34]

since ndsu is an outlier, before any offer would come from the MWC, i'm sure that they would want to see some FBS success. After all, the MWC can always go to texas and find teams that already have proven that they can hang in the FBS. If however, NDSU were to be an established FBS program and could raise the profile of the conference in terms of on-field production that might sway them. There is no way they would take FCS NDSU.

Who are they plucking from Texas at this point??? UTEP is all thats left with the aggressive moves by B12 and AAC to basically gut CUSA of all Texas schools

Even if you replace MWC with CUSA in this discussion doesnt take away the need for NDSU to have a partner in the move up

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

since ndsu is an outlier, before any offer would come from the MWC, i'm sure that they would want to see some FBS success. After all, the MWC can always go to texas and find teams that already have proven that they can hang in the FBS. If however, NDSU were to be an established FBS program and could raise the profile of the conference in terms of on-field production that might sway them. There is no way they would take FCS NDSU.

Not any more. AAC took them all. Plus the MWC has already talked about adding NDSU

[NDSUstudent]

Not any more. AAC took them all. Plus the MWC has already talked about adding NDSU

The MWC could still poach them anyway. I don't think AAC had a very well thought out expansion plan.

[El_Chapo]

Who are they plucking from Texas at this point??? UTEP is all thats left with the aggressive moves by B12 and AAC to basically gut CUSA of all Texas schools

Even if you replace MWC with CUSA in this discussion doesnt take away the need for NDSU to have a partner in the move up

NDSU doesnt NEED a partner in this NOR should they WANT a partner because when NDSU is FBS in Football, they can pluck the top 3-4 recruits from all these regional teams, hell with the transfer portal, sdsu, uni, und , usd can be our minor league team and grab their kids as they progress!!

Time to go Scorched Earth on this NDSU to FBS push!!! lets goooo!!

[56BISON73]

The hard-core NDSU football fanbase is 35-50. there is no denying this.
Majority of season ticket holders are probably 50+

that 35-50 crowd has enjoyed the ride In the prime of their lives, traveled to all FBS games, Most of the Frisco games, they've done it all already.

NDSU HAS TO APPEASE THAT GENRE.....

Maybe Matt Larson doesn't care, if the program goes south he will bolt to the 1st east coast AD job & coast at 150-200k/year.
Bresciani has been great, but he's gone too now!!

Source for these assertions?????

[scottietohottie]

Source for these assertions?????

Hard core grandma's bro.

[roadwarrior]

Source for these assertions?????

Come on PL! You should know that all El Chapo responses have been thoroughly researched.