A new and better FBS thread

[NDSU92]

1. You should absolutely care what happened to UND and
2. there is no world where ndsu is only playing 4 road games in a season at FBS lol.

He’s talking about the conference games being out west. You can pick where your non-conference games are.

We haven’t played in Wisconsin probably since I’ve been alive. We have one game a year in Iowa, zero in Minnesota. Sure we play a lot of games in Illinois, but are we really recruiting many players from out-state Illinois?

For me the Midwest argument doesn’t mean much. I think we’re grasping at straws if that’s the case. It reminds me of the folks who said we belong in FCS/summit/valley with like minded schools. But other than the Dakota schools our conferences are all teachers colleges lol

[56BISON73]

ya. i'm sure matt's excuse will be "well we were busy with the baseball team in the ncaa's"

I'd like NDSU to get to MWC before pud NMSU https://www.abqjournal.com/236926/nm...embership.html

why doesn't NDSU use the local media to push this narrative like Las Cruces "NDSU would prefer MWC membership!"

You keep forgetting a very important fact. A conference has to want you to get an invite. Im sure the conferences have numerous reasons for not offering the invite.
Those reasons may not seem valid to those here. But they dont have to. They only need to make sense them.

[IndyBison]

I would think most G5 conferences would love to have a program like NDSU. The only negative for them would be travel and that varies depending on how dispersed the conference already is. We aren't a peer institution for P5 schools so I don't see that likely ever.

Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska kids will choose NDSU because their family can travel to games in the MVFC/Summit or MAC footprint. You can drive to many of places for a long weekend. If their games are in Wyoming, Colorado, California, Nevada their only travel option is flights. This could factor into the difficulty of success. UND felt this in the Big Sky.

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[NDSU92]

You keep forgetting a very important fact. A conference has to want you to get an invite. Im sure the conferences have numerous reasons for not offering the invite.
Those reasons may not seem valid to those here. But they dont have to. They only need to make sense them.

I don’t think he or anyone else has forgotten that. All of these conversations have the context of either “if it was up to NDSU what should we do” or “if there’s an offer on the table should NDSU take it”. The casual fan may not understand that, but everyone here does.

[El_Chapo]

PL. yes we've been over that for 8 fucking years now.
it's an absolute FAILURE of Matt/Dean NOT pursuing at least for 8 years!!

plus, screw the Travel argument, NDSU flies to Youngstown Ohio/Springfield Missouri/Terra Haute Ind.

Flying to Colorado/Wyoming/Utah/Boise is what, 30 min/1 hour longer?? big deal.

[ByeSonBusiness]

PL. yes we've been over that for 8 fucking years now.
it's an absolute FAILURE of Matt/Dean NOT pursuing at least for 8 years!!

plus, screw the Travel argument, NDSU flies to Youngstown Ohio/Springfield Missouri/Terra Haute Ind.

Flying to Colorado/Wyoming/Utah/Boise is what, 30 min/1 hour longer?? big deal.

Very convenient to leave out the California flights

[bisonaudit]

Very convenient to leave out the California flights

by the time we move up they’ll have fallen in the ocean.

[56BISON73]

PL. yes we've been over that for 8 fucking years now.
it's an absolute FAILURE of Matt/Dean NOT pursuing at least for 8 years!!

plus, screw the Travel argument, NDSU flies to Youngstown Ohio/Springfield Missouri/Terra Haute Ind.

Flying to Colorado/Wyoming/Utah/Boise is what, 30 min/1 hour longer?? big deal.

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[IndyBison]

PL. yes we've been over that for 8 fucking years now.
it's an absolute FAILURE of Matt/Dean NOT pursuing at least for 8 years!!

plus, screw the Travel argument, NDSU flies to Youngstown Ohio/Springfield Missouri/Terra Haute Ind.

Flying to Colorado/Wyoming/Utah/Boise is what, 30 min/1 hour longer?? big deal.

I'm not talking about the teams flying. I'm talking about family members attending games. Many will want to travel often to see their kids play. They aren't going to fly out west every week. But they could drive to Carbondale or Cedar Falls or Macomb. The school impact would be more flights than bus trips but that would be an issue regardless of which FBS conference the Bison joined. That probably has more impact on the decision to move to FBS in general.

It's fact that UND struggled to compete for recruits because of the footprint of where they played their games. I expect them to have much more success now that they are in the Summit/MVFC. Whether you like it or not, NDSU's location is a factor that makes all of this more difficult than if they were in a different geography.

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[56BISON73]

I'm not talking about the teams flying. I'm talking about family members attending games. Many will want to travel often to see their kids play. They aren't going to fly out west every week. But they could drive to Carbondale or Cedar Falls or Macomb. The school impact would be more flights than bus trips but that would be an issue regardless of which FBS conference the Bison joined. That probably has more impact on the decision to move to FBS in general.

It's fact that UND struggled to compete for recruits because of the footprint of where they played their games. I expect them to have much more success now that they are in the Summit/MVFC. Whether you like it or not, NDSU's location is a factor that makes all of this more difficult than if they were in a different geography.

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