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    Default Re: 2019 Sagarin Says

    I’m pretty sure neither of you comprehend the difference between being favored in every game and an undefeated season being likely.
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    Default Re: 2019 Sagarin Says

    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I’m pretty sure neither of you comprehend the difference between being favored in every game and an undefeated season being likely.
    Math is hard.

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    Just the fact that everyone is dunking on Lakes because hes such an idiot for saying that we should be going undefeated each year, when our average record over that time frame is LESS THAN one loss per season. In a fifteen game season we win 14.1 games, mathematically. His point was that we are way better than the competition in the FCS to the point that we should go undefeated each year.

    Everyone pretending like its a giant dunk on lakes because we "only" won 14.1/15 games over that time frame is delusional. losing .9 games a year isnt exactly a rebuke of Lakes' point that we are inappropriately better than our competition. this proves his point pretty damn thoroughly and you guys are acting like its not even close.

    But your right guys- we only went undefeated twice and are odds on favorites to do it again- that means the level of competition is akshully super DUPER high and lakes is an idiot for thinking otherwise.
    1. The FCS was the Best option for NDSU for a very long time.
    2. As a general rule- the FCS sucks at football and has proven that is not committed to football at all.
    3. It's time to go FBS

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    Default Re: 2019 Sagarin Says

    I was just betting on Lance being the man. Dude looked the part walking off the bus and made the highlight reel in garbage time almost every game. Combine that with NDSU's record of recent dominance and betting on not losing doesn't seem that crazy at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    I was just betting on Lance being the man. Dude looked the part walking off the bus and made the highlight reel in garbage time almost every game. Combine that with NDSU's record of recent dominance and betting on not losing doesn't seem that crazy at all.
    NDSU lost a QB and a WR that made NFL opening day rosters. They also lost a RB and an O-line anchor at C that signed UDFA contracts with NFL teams. They're still putting up ridiculous numbers operating as perhaps the most efficient offense we've seen here in the D1 era.

    As a fan it makes you go...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    NDSU lost a QB and a WR that made NFL opening day rosters. They also lost a RB and an O-line anchor at C that signed UDFA contracts with NFL teams. They're still putting up ridiculous numbers operating as perhaps the most efficient offense we've seen here in the D1 era.

    As a fan it makes you go...

    All of that is true, but all of those things happened before and the train kept chugging along. This year was probably the most happening all at once but the defense had a core group coming back. The surprising part of this year has been the offensive production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    All of that is true, but all of those things happened before and the train kept chugging along. This year was probably the most happening all at once but the defense had a core group coming back. The surprising part of this year has been the offensive production.
    Absolutely. I didn't even include the fact that they lost their OC and the new OC called plays only once before and that was for 1 year at the high school level (I believe). The continuity they've maintained despite the changes faces on the field and on the sideline just defies explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MankatoBison View Post
    Just the fact that everyone is dunking on Lakes because hes such an idiot for saying that we should be going undefeated each year, when our average record over that time frame is LESS THAN one loss per season. In a fifteen game season we win 14.1 games, mathematically. His point was that we are way better than the competition in the FCS to the point that we should go undefeated each year.

    Everyone pretending like its a giant dunk on lakes because we "only" won 14.1/15 games over that time frame is delusional. losing .9 games a year isnt exactly a rebuke of Lakes' point that we are inappropriately better than our competition. this proves his point pretty damn thoroughly and you guys are acting like its not even close.

    But your right guys- we only went undefeated twice and are odds on favorites to do it again- that means the level of competition is akshully super DUPER high and lakes is an idiot for thinking otherwise.
    Given the fact that the FCS all-time record winning streak is currently at 33 games, and an unbeaten season usually makes for 15 games a season, I would say that predicting "unbeaten seasons since 2010" seems to fit the definition of (in your words) an "idiot", or, most likely with this specific poster, someone pushing an agenda.

    Now, if you want to change the goalpost and in complete hindsight recalibrate for a prediction of 1, maybe 2 straight seasons of being undefeated, given the historically unprecedented results of the last 8 years .......... then yeah, I guess no (in your words again) "f*cking MORON" is going to call the sanitarium immediately on you two, but who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MankatoBison View Post
    Just the fact that everyone is dunking on Lakes because hes such an idiot for saying that we should be going undefeated each year, when our average record over that time frame is LESS THAN one loss per season. In a fifteen game season we win 14.1 games, mathematically. His point was that we are way better than the competition in the FCS to the point that we should go undefeated each year.

    Everyone pretending like its a giant dunk on lakes because we "only" won 14.1/15 games over that time frame is delusional. losing .9 games a year isnt exactly a rebuke of Lakes' point that we are inappropriately better than our competition. this proves his point pretty damn thoroughly and you guys are acting like its not even close.

    But your right guys- we only went undefeated twice and are odds on favorites to do it again- that means the level of competition is akshully super DUPER high and lakes is an idiot for thinking otherwise.
    What, in your mind, is “inappropriate” about the difference in quality among FCS programs?
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    Default Re: 2019 Sagarin Says

    Looks like the Bison finally got all the 1st place votes in the Stats poll:

    http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs

    Or the guys voting for someone else gave up on submitting their rankings.

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