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It's not just high level college athletes. It's an open secret that Polaris hires the parents of certain high school students so they can live in Roseau and play on the hockey team.
Soo now that the NCAA is looking at approving this is some fashion
https://www.inforum.com/sports/other...image-likeness
Does it allow the colleges that offer COA to deduct what the players are getting from outside sources from the COA??
I struggle with this, as both you and Yote 53 are correct. I think athletes should be able to be paid for image/likeness, but how do you prevent this situation:
1. NDSU has a 3 star recruit commit for football over numerous FBS schools.
2. PJ realizes he has a hole in his recruiting class, pulls up NDSU's verbals and sees this kid and decides to target him.
3. Kid resists since NDSU has been so good to him, but PJ says, don't worry, "we'll take care of you." wink, wink
4. Kid flips, and they find some connected booster to pay him for use of his "image/likeness".....
Again, I see both sides of this, however this is end of amateurism, and schools like NDSU will have a very, very hard time holding any kids with P5 offers. (It was already hard, but just wait.....it just won't happen.)
How do you stop the local car salesman from paying for the image/likeness of any or all players.
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NCAA should start planning organized professional leagues, with tiers - something like how soccer is organized in Euro countries, eventually feeding into the NFL/NBA/etc being the top tier.
“Member Schools” have the stadiums, rights to pay for players/transfers/etc. Schools can offer the players schooling as a compensation option (eg. all non revenue sports), but not required.
Players get paid according to market value, and endorsement value just like anyone else, they may or may not attend the school as it’s entirely optional.
NCAA could generate significant amounts of revenue (like it does today) by organizing, facilitating the leagues, tourneys, sponsorships, etc at all levels.
Younger than college players are also entirely eligible for this as well. So perceived top players in what’s current AAU, HS and the likes can go into the profession early, similar to the hockey/etc leagues.
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This requires the ncaa to honestly admit what’s going on and find a real solution. So very likely this will not happen by the accord of the ncaa. Cue yote53s comment... the have/have not gap widens, and slowly people stop caring about their mediocre school athletics in the popular sports and maybe cheer remotely for another school/semi pro team, or find something else to do.
Most of the apocalyptic posts I've seen in opposition to this have something to do with recruiting and I've yet to see any indication that this will not still be a major recruiting violation even with these new rules in place. Now you can say "well, how are they going to enforce it when they don't know if the recruit was promised something before or after he was signed?" and that's a fair point but those are also rules they are enforcing now in terms of differentiating the level of contact boosters can have with recruits before and after they sign.
Besides I highly doubt you're going to see a whole lot of scenarios at NDSU's level where this even comes into play. There isn't an endless supply of money just waiting to be thrown at these guys. I think the money used by local businesses to seek endorsements from college players will come out of the money they would otherwise donate to the university. So is a coach really going to be in cahoots with the big money boosters about "taking care" of his recruits when he knows every dollar he squeezes out of them for that is one less dollar feeding his program's coffers? Maybe but I think that's territory that only the P5 level schools are going to be getting into. I doubt Matt Entz is going to be calling Mr Big Shot Scheels or Mr Big Shot Gateway Chevy to set up stuff like this. Even at the P5 level I don't think there's going to be that many players pocketing big change because of this.
Maybe I'm naïve. But maybe there's a ton of overreaction to this. I think it's the latter.
You don't (as long as they're already players on the roster).
I don't think the NCAA has any business doing that. The NFL and NBA on the other hand...