State of the University address

[The_Sicatoka]

UND's online engineering programs require on-campus summer sessions for hands-on labs for the lab courses.

[The_Sicatoka]

... when the state moved to PeopleSoft. It was an unmitigated disaster ...

... and that's giving it too much credit.

I'd never heard an ill word about anyone or anything, much less a curse word, from a particular now retired NDSU department secretary. She was an awesomely nice lady.

She used the English equivalent of the French "merde" to describe PeopleSoft.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

This all is just some fishy timing. Waiting for the word to get out after we open the FPC? If 10 million isn’t a big deal why would our president say everything is on the table for cuts mentioning even football. Why say that if these cuts will be easy and painless.

I was out west this weekend so no football game for me! And no I was not in Vegas with Chapo….

Because he’s being diplomatic and everything probably is on the table, just not in the doom-and-gloom way that you guys want to portray. Programs that bring in external funding and are on upward trajectories (eg FB, Business, Science/Math) will either be spared or asked to pull in still more to accommodate cuts. There will be more belt tightening as well, no doubt. Entities that bring in little money, have declining enrollments, and aren’t on in-demand career tracks are probably nervous about mergers and acquisitions. Programs like Engineering will be retooled. NDSU just built a $50M+ FB facility with donated funds so I think FB will be fine

What's going on with hockey up there? Seems to be slipping. Might need to refocus your efforts, especially if the "unthinkable" happens

[The_Sicatoka]

NDSU just built a $50M+ FB facility with donated funds so I think FB will be fine

There's a reason "privately funded" was in every statement regarding your new facility. Now we know.


PS - A week removed from beating #1 in their house is "slipping"?

[THEsocalledfan]

Because he’s being diplomatic and everything probably is on the table, just not in the doom-and-gloom way that you guys want to portray. Programs that bring in external funding and are on upward trajectories (eg FB, Business, Science/Math) will either be spared or asked to pull in still more to accommodate cuts. There will be more belt tightening as well, no doubt. Entities that bring in little money, have declining enrollments, and aren’t on in-demand career tracks are probably nervous about mergers and acquisitions. Programs like Engineering will be retooled. NDSU just built a $50M+ FB facility with donated funds so I think FB will be fine.

I sure hope you are right, but note this is NOT how budget cuts have been done so far. Sicatoka's info is very accurate as I am very much on the inside at one college. That college is going to have a major, major problem if they don't get their shit together and begin shutting down unprofitable/low success programs. The cuts coming are that severe, after very, very severe cuts already made.

[ByeSonBusiness]

I sure hope you are right, but note this is NOT how budget cuts have been done so far. Sicatoka's info is very accurate as I am very much on the inside at one college. That college is going to have a major, major problem if they don't get their shit together and begin shutting down unprofitable/low success programs. The cuts coming are that severe, after very, very severe cuts already made.

Did NDSU get a bunch of silly programs?

[THEsocalledfan]

Did NDSU get a bunch of silly programs?

I think every University collect them over the course of time. Reality is, if the program does not draw many students/fill a critical workforce need, they and all the faculty and staff associated need to go. This is a awful financial situation, and awful things needs to be done.

[GCWaters]

I think every University collect them over the course of time. Reality is, if the program does not draw many students/fill a critical workforce need, they and all the faculty and staff associated need to go. This is a awful financial situation, and awful things needs to be done.

I'll add a third vote to Sic and TSF...NDSU is going to look very, very different a year from now....

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

I'll add a third vote to Sic and TSF...NDSU is going to look very, very different a year from now....

I agree, but can you be more specific?

To TSF: NDSU has a new president. Not to dis on the old one (I wish him all the best and I know you all love him), but he (i) refused to do anything other than across the board cuts (to avoid hard decisions) and (ii) doubled down on his initial vision(s) right up until the very end. He was not the kind of person to admit heading down the wrong path and suddenly change course. He "stuck to his guns", as they say. He was also replaced by Bismarck, probably a few years too late for my taste, but again, I truly do wish him the best. I don’t expect he’ll ever be back here

A perfect example is the statement he made to McFeely when he was leaving, the one that our sic friend likes to dredge up all the time: "Fargo might not big enough to support an FBS program". It was immediately obvious that this is nonsense, since NDSU draws huge financial support from across the region and country. But it justified his long-standing view of FBS, which is why he said it

Doubling down on recruitment/retention, enhancing distance/continuing ed (on-line), and redefining or eliminating programs are the way out of this. A big part of the issue is that ND has way too many colleges and universities, and I’d like to know what is being done to address this fundamental problem by Bismarck. My guess is nothing, as long it just hurts NDSU …

[El_Chapo]

Valley St/NDSCS > NDSU
Mayville/Lake Region > und
Williston & Dickinson > Bismarck St

4 ND College's..... Boom Done.

NDSU
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minot st
Bismarck St