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    Sac_State Guest

    Default Less is more?

    Sac State is starting to rumble from it's long nap. The giant is finally awakening. :

    http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports...-9335023c.html

    and

    http://www.csus.edu/union/wrec/project.html


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    Sac_State Guest

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    Ok, by now it's probably 20* outside in Fargo. Doesn't that big glass atrium entrance offer a warm, exciting welcome basked in the Cali sun?

    If you want to transfer, let me know, Dr. W. and I go way back to our MickyD days, so I can put in a good word for you.

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    somebison Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sac-State
    Dr. W. and I go way back to our MickyD days, so I can put in a good word for you. *


    i must say... you do look fabulous in purple (maybe a bit hefty thoug )

    any timeline on when the WREC would be completed?

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    Sac_State Guest

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    Naw, that purple guy is our new marketing director, this is me before corporate made me cut my hair.

    WREC is to be completed by 2007.

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    http://www.stopitcsus.com/

    New facility will be a WREC, indeed
    Guest Commentary

    by Brandon Abell
    March 03, 2004

    Am I the only one upset about the proposal, apparently spearheaded by the student-funded University Union, to raise our student fees once again to construct the Wellness-Recreation-Events Center (WREC)?
    If all goes according to the university's public statements thus far, the bill will be $100 to $150 per semester for each student, in addition to the approximately $100 per student Associated Students, Inc. already contributes to athletics each year. There have already been attempts to persuade the students to vote themselves into this new obligation over the past few years. The students have refused to support it, and for good reason: It is a poor investment. First show us how the $100 we are already spending is a good investment, then come to us and ask us to give you more money to play with.

    Other state universities, such as Fresno State, have been able to construct this type of facility without sticking the students with the cost. Fresno's Save Mart Center was completed last November, and was 100 percent privately financed. I'm sure the first objection to this example will be that the Fresno State athletics program is more successful than ours, and that that enabled them to get more private money. But that would prove my point: Our athletics program is already taking around $100 from each student each year, ostensibly to help them be more competitive. Has it worked? No.

    Despite the "hype" being put forth by WREC proponents, and augmented by the efforts of a pair of consultants being paid with $50,000 of the student-funded University Union's money, there is no groundswell of support for an increase of student fees to fund a multipurpose center. The directors of the University Union invited campus organizations and individual students to take part in focus groups.

    But who actually made it into those focus groups? How did the University Union derive the absurd 78 percent support rate they claim on their project's website? I challenge them to find one qualified faculty member who would be willing to stake their academic and professional reputation on that figure accurately representing the view of the overall campus community.

    Even if the general campus population stood to benefit from the WREC proposal, those benefits can be gained without forcing every student to pay for services that some have no desire to use. For example, large student discounts could be negotiated with local fitness centers, and fundraisers can be held to fund the replacement of old exercise equipment. I wonder how much equipment that $50,000 consulting fee could have replaced or repaired?

    While they may be loud and well-funded, the WREC proponents are a small minority of the student population, and cannot be truthfully said to be representative of the rest of us. Take the time to let the University Union and ASI know that you do not favor a fee increase to build this facility. The only way to have your voice heard is to speak up.


    Brandon Abell, a senior government major at Sac State, is the founder of Students Tired of Paying Increased Tuition (STOPIT). He can be reached at brandon@stopitcsus.com

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    Sac_State Guest

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    blowhard Posted 3-6-2004 23:06

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    You only will hear the negative.

    Especially at the student level. Especially in California. Especially in Sacramento.

    This person will vote against anything representing authority. Logic isn't used and certainly brain power is omitted.

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    I can't help but notice the total lack of class by Sac State ( the handle not the CSU). I see he puts a little "fUCD" at the end of his posts. Most of us Ags, will usually respond without the derogatory language or intent. We all know what fUCD means-so why not just spell it out-it doesn't make you look any better. I for one, will not say anything that derogatory against any school or student groups.
    Why do you find it so necessary to be so vulgar and classless? I know not all CSUS are like that.

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    Sac_State Guest

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    Ahhhh, struck a nerve with Mr. Merlot?

    Get off your your stack of Cliff's Notes.

    Like the constant 'Suck State' that the hairy armpit UCD women chant, is classy?

    The cuss words, verbal profanities and personal attacts that were hurled by UCD students and alum on public television towards the Sac State football team as it exited at halftime two years ago at Hughes. That was classy.

    And look a few posts above you. Your brethren, "GoAgs' posts some obscure rambling by the only person who opposes the RWEC. Instead of a class act of helping your neighbor, like supporting having a competetive neighbor, you try and blast anything negative you can dig up. That's class.

    You think because you come from UCD that you are special? Does that make you a superrace of UC Davis humanoids? I don't know about your type, but I like messy BBQ ribs, Budwesier and watching NASCAR. And following the Hornets.

    You can take your pedigree handle, 1.5L of Chardonnay, '03 of course, brick of Brie, sit on it and spin. Use Vaseline if it is too tight.

    You, my Dear Mr. Luchessioucourt, or whatever, are a Cad! Pardon, make that a classless UCD graduate Cad!

    Hummm, they just opened up a 'Ted's' nearby, think I'll go have a full rack. Bison of course.

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    JBB Guest

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    Thanks for mentioning us!

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    somebison Guest

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    Have a Bee in your Bonnet today Dorothy :-/ . Is there a new Sac St. board after the Sactosaurus one died ???

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