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    I've been trying to compile all the scores for all current DI-AA teams since 1973 and that's proving kind of hard.

    However, I do have enough data for this, a comparision between average enrollments for four selected years:

    Year Div Cnt Enroll* Grad
    1973 NCAA I-A 119 22,008 5,706
    1973 NCAA II 130 9,871 1,930
    1983 NCAA I-A 102 24,314 6,019
    1983 NCAA I-AA 80 11,252 2,453
    1983 NCAA II 114 7,826 1,544
    1993 NCAA I-A 107 24,092 5,895
    1993 NCAA I-AA 112 10,495 2,478
    1993 NCAA II 140 5,964 1,119
    2003 NCAA I-A 117 23,802 5,859
    2003 NCAA I-AA 126 10,067 2,276
    2003 NCAA II 148 5,578 913

    * The enrollment figures are the most recent ones, not the ones corresponding to 1973, 1983, etc.

    What I gather from this is that DI-A and DI-AA schools have attracted the same size of schools over time. DII's original schools are now twice as big on average as the current membership though. Of course, a lot of this has to do with DI-AA splitting off.

    DII's was down to 96 members right after DI-AA was formed. In 2004, they'll have 145 members. That's kind of encouraging for them. DI-AA has seen modest growth over time even though some good programs have moved to DI-A football. I guess that would be encouraging for NDSU fans.

    Just for fun, here are the 10 biggest DII schools rated by undergrad enrollment:

    Undergrad Total
    18407 31167 Wayne State (MI)
    16875 20407 Grand Valley State
    14897 16224 St. Cloud State
    12988 15239 Central Oklahoma
    12487 13865 Western Washington
    12087 13795 Minn. State - Mankato
    11834 13671 Indiana (PA)
    11333 14451 Nebraska-Omaha
    10467 12584 West Chester
    10277 12423 North Dakota

    DI-AA:

    Undergrad Total
    22871 28558 Cal State-Sacramento
    22786 29807 UC Davis
    21095 25041 Texas State - San Marcos
    18994 23357 Northeastern
    18606 24062 Massachusetts
    18353 21183 Illinois State
    18099 21289 Delaware
    17794 18059 Weber State
    17442 18453 Cal Poly-SLO
    16863 21873 Southern Illinois

    NDSU is #36.

    Not much difference at the top, is there? Interesting that 8 of the 10 biggest DII schools are in the NW football region.

    Median enrollment: DI-AA has 7,057 undergrad (8,930 total) and DII has 3349 undergrad (4676 total).

    That's all the stupid stats for today.

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    Default Re: Stupid Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I've been trying to compile all the scores for all current DI-AA teams since 1973 and that's proving kind of hard.
    This is your lucky day. Someone has already found all those scores.

    http://www.michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_1aa.htm

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    Thats really interesting. *A lot of schools have 500 games or more. *But some only have a few hundred or less. *When you look back on a history of 500 games or so your talking 100 yrs. *Those programs that have only played a couple of hundred games have a long way to go. *Look at the ups and downs at NDSU.

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