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[bisonaudit]

I think Entz was good at DC because we had a legit all-time DC as our HC. How much control did Entz have? We KNOW Klieman is the real deal...and knew this when he was DC. What has Entz done?

The Peter Principle thing makes more sense to me than Klieman doing two full time jobs and no one noticing to the point that they hired the guy who wasn’t doing his coordinator job to be the head coach.

[EndZoneQB]

The Peter Principle thing makes more sense to me than Klieman doing two full time jobs and no one noticing to the point that they hired the guy who wasn’t doing his coordinator job to be the head coach.

Touche, that makes sense. I also wasn't implying he wasn't doing his job, but that maybe he wasn't necessarily calling the games without Klieman's oversight. But maybe it's sort of related to the Peter Principle, his leader was great and elevated those around him, which allowed him to rise above his level.

[OrygunBison]

Touche, that makes sense. I also wasn't implying he wasn't doing his job, but that maybe he wasn't necessarily calling the games without Klieman's oversight. But maybe it's sort of related to the Peter Principle, his leader was great and elevated those around him, which allowed him to rise above his level.

Regardless, he was a better DC than HC, right?

[56BISON73]

Touche, that makes sense. I also wasn't implying he wasn't doing his job, but that maybe he wasn't necessarily calling the games without Klieman's oversight. But maybe it's sort of related to the Peter Principle, his leader was great and elevated those around him, which allowed him to rise above his level.

Klieman was quoted " There are times when I need to step back and let the assistant coaches coach. But there will be times when I see something that I wont hesitate in letting them know." (para phrased}

[gavin2126]

Did no one here watch Montana State in Brookings a few weeks ago run QB Chambers into a brick wall play after play after play after play?

[Bison4peat]

Klieman was quoted " There are times when I need to step back and let the assistant coaches coach. But there will be times when I see something that I wont hesitate in letting them know." (para phrased}

Entz "There are times when I don't know what to do so I talk to my buddy TR and we hammer the qb draw"

[Son of a Bison]

Hope this isn’t true but can’t prove it wrong. I remember defenses being young at the beginning of the season but still good. By the playoff bye week the defense was legit but got better every week especially over winter camp. I have not seen the week to week improvement recently. Bit concerned.

I think Entz was good at DC because we had a legit all-time DC as our HC. How much control did Entz have? We KNOW Klieman is the real deal...and knew this when he was DC. What has Entz done?

[EndZoneQB]

Regardless, he was a better DC than HC, right?

That doesn't make the point you think it makes.

Klieman was quoted " There are times when I need to step back and let the assistant coaches coach. But there will be times when I see something that I wont hesitate in letting them know." (para phrased}

Pretty easy to read between the lines there, no?

Did no one here watch Montana State in Brookings a few weeks ago run QB Chambers into a brick wall play after play after play after play?

You can do that when you have a dominant defense, which we do *not* have. It's not even good, it's actually pretty bad.

Hope this isn’t true but can’t prove it wrong. I remember defenses being young at the beginning of the season but still good. By the playoff bye week the defense was legit but got better every week especially over winter camp. I have not seen the week to week improvement recently. Bit concerned.

Like McFeely pointed out, the great teams we've had did stub their toes once in awhile, but this just feels different...much like the loss in Frisco last year. I don't think there was a single positive thing to take away from this game. This certainly doesn't have the feel of a team that will peak in November.

[WYOBISONMAN]

I was definitely pro fire Vigen. He seems to have grown into the job at Montana State.

[taper]

Getting Vigen to move might be tough. His base salary is $210k but bonuses can push that close to $500k. Entz has a $300k base but bonuses top out at $420k. Pretty sure that money goes further in Bozeman too. Buying out Entz's contract to sign an even higher one isn't a good look right now. I think he has 2 years left. Might be better to wait for that and replace a coordinator instead. See if that lights a fire.