EWU Post Game Thoughts & Discussion

[56BISON73]

I have seen enough of Cole, and I don't think the upside is higher. Cam is just plain and simple a better passer.

Ray Charles can see that. And I will also say hes pretty good running the ball .

[TransAmBison]

Ray Charles can see that. And I will also say hes pretty good running the ball .

Even though painfully obvious, it riles up some on here to hear it.

[Kevin]

I agree with you. Pretty sure the coaches have seen enough of Cole in practice to know who's better. It's not hard to see IMO.

I don't know if I'd trust their opinion at this time bro.

TAB's not entirely wrong for once. Cam does move the ball better on these short-to-medium comeback routes. But is that because it's all he can do or is it all they're letting him do? I don't have the answers to these questions since they discovered the listening device that lakes planted in their meeting room.

Either way, taking Cole out and then having Cam run the same fucking plays they were calling for Cole doesn't instill confidence at this point.

[Kevin]

Here is some sample visual data

Finally got time to watch this:


Play 1: Running an improvised scramble. This is the kind of running I mentioned. It’s when he’s actually effective with his legs.

Play 2: Either an out or a comeback route. Exactly what I was referring to in my post.

Play 3: Designed QB run. 3rd and Quincy style.

Play 4: Beautiful throw on the run but again, wide receiver out pattern.

Play 5: Back shoulder throw, receiver had to stop and sit in the zone.

Play 7: Improvised run.

Play 8: Out route to the flat.

Play 9: Improvised comeback route.

Play 10: Slant?

Play 11: Great throw, hit him in the hands on the fly.

Play 12: Great throw again, fly route and nearly over the shoulder.

Play 13: Not sure why this is a Cam highlight. Swing pass to flat to the bus for a TD.


Looks like 1, maybe 2 of the 13 plays contradicts my point that all we let him throw is comebacks, outs and receivers sitting down the zones.

Only question I have is he limited by his arm or by TR? I'm not sure we'll get an answer but I don't have the faith that he can stretch the field in crunch time like the other five guys I mentioned.

[gotts]

Roehl Herd

[EC8CH]

Finally got time to watch this:


Play 1: Running an improvised scramble. This is the kind of running I mentioned. It’s when he’s actually effective with his legs.

Play 2: Either an out or a comeback route. Exactly what I was referring to in my post.

Play 3: Designed QB run. 3rd and Quincy style.

Play 4: Beautiful throw on the run but again, wide receiver out pattern.

Play 5: Back shoulder throw, receiver had to stop and sit in the zone.

Play 7: Improvised run.

Play 8: Out route to the flat.

Play 9: Improvised comeback route.

Play 10: Slant?

Play 11: Great throw, hit him in the hands on the fly.

Play 12: Great throw again, fly route and nearly over the shoulder.

Play 13: Not sure why this is a Cam highlight. Swing pass to flat to the bus for a TD.


Looks like 1, maybe 2 of the 13 plays contradicts my point that all we let him throw is comebacks, outs and receivers sitting down the zones.

Only question I have is he limited by his arm or by TR? I'm not sure we'll get an answer but I don't have the faith that he can stretch the field in crunch time like the other five guys I mentioned.

Serviceable QB with a ceiling... Lacks elite athleticism and consistent accuracy. Was close to having a huge game but missed open throws by enough to allow defenders to make plays on otherwise open receivers.

[Bisonator98]

All I know is what I see during games and the offense just runs smoother with Cam at QB. Cole maybe the better runner but Cam's no slouch either. Cam's definitely the better passer and it's not even close. I'd rather we stop relying on the QB run game so much and get back to a pro-style offense. The fricking read option shit isn't Bison football!

[Kevin]

All I know is what I see during games and the offense just runs smoother with Cam at QB. Cole maybe the better runner but Cam's no slouch either. Cam's definitely the better passer and it's not even close. I'd rather we stop relying on the QB run game so much and get back to a pro-style offense. The fricking read option shit isn't Bison football!

We're pretty predictable. With Cole we become one dimensional (like Third and Quincy predictable). Gotta let the kid throw a bit to keep defenses honest.

[SDbison]

All I know is what I see during games and the offense just runs smoother with Cam at QB. Cole maybe the better runner but Cam's no slouch either. Cam's definitely the better passer and it's not even close. I'd rather we stop relying on the QB run game so much and get back to a pro-style offense. The fricking read option shit isn't Bison football!

How can you make that conclusion when Cole has hardly had a chance to run the entire offense with just limited reps here and there! The offensive scheme Tyler Roehl runs is terrible. Cam isn't much better than average and won't be able to win the big games especially when it's put on his back.

[Jay]

Even though painfully obvious, it riles up some on here to hear it.

He is 10-18 in his career. There isn’t a sample size. It’s 100% based on judgment at this point. Not saying your thought is incorrect, but there isn’t anything to make an eye based judgement on.