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    So looked like Richman overachieved a bit, especially after the non-conference start. Although seems like Summit was down a bit. Going to be difficult to beat USD and SDSU back to back nights. USD has not played well lately. ORU is the clear favorite and will take a special night to knock them off. I have ORU beating SDSU by single digits in the ship. Lets hope we dont have any significant losses in the portal.

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    SDSU will have a cake walk in the quarters. They'll either get Kansas City, who has been brutally awful since Shemarri Allen got hurt against UND last week, or last place Omaha so they'll be much better positioned for that Monday night semi that NDSU will hopefully be in with them.

    It's definitely ORU and everyone else though. They're almost a lock for a 12 seed and could even move up to the 11 line I think. They had the 3rd most points among ORV team in last week's AP Top 25 and some teams in front of them lost this week so they could plausibly make the national top 25 as well with a SLT title next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    SDSU will have a cake walk in the quarters. They'll either get Kansas City, who has been brutally awful since Shemarri Allen got hurt against UND last week, or last place Omaha so they'll be much better positioned for that Monday night semi that NDSU will hopefully be in with them.

    It's definitely ORU and everyone else though. They're almost a lock for a 12 seed and could even move up to the 11 line I think. They had the 3rd most points among ORV team in last week's AP Top 25 and some teams in front of them lost this week so they could plausibly make the national top 25 as well with a SLT title next week.
    If they lose in the title game, would they get an at large, you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heffray View Post
    If they lose in the title game, would they get an at large, you think?
    I don't follow it super closely but I'd doubt it. They're up to #44 in the NET ratings but they're 0-4 in quad 1 (which is teams #1-#75 that they've played on the road). They're 23-0 vs quads 2 through 4 although a loss to SDSU would probably be a quad 3 loss most likely which would be bad for their at-large chances with no quad 1 wins I'd think not to mention probably drop them into the 50s in the NET ratings.

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    NDSU probally got the worst draw it could have. Gotta beat both South Dakota schools and ORU to win it all with no days rest, going to be quite the challenge. USD certainly isnt great but they are old and experienced and being 30 mins from Sioux Falls will draw a crowd. I dont see anyone beat ORU, while they arent super deep the day off should help them cruise to the title game.

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    Fun to look back at the preseason poll and compare it to how it played out:

    Preseason Poll:

    1)Oral Roberts
    2)South Dakota State
    3)South Dakota
    4)North Dakota State
    5)Denver
    6)Kansas City
    7)Western Illinois
    8)St. Thomas
    9)Omaha
    10)North Dakota

    Final Conference Standings:

    1)Oral Roberts
    2)South Dakota State
    3)North Dakota State
    4)Western Illinois
    5)St. Thomas
    6)South Dakota
    7)Kansas City
    8)Denver
    9)North Dakota
    10)Omaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    I don't follow it super closely but I'd doubt it. They're up to #44 in the NET ratings but they're 0-4 in quad 1 (which is teams #1-#75 that they've played on the road). They're 23-0 vs quads 2 through 4 although a loss to SDSU would probably be a quad 3 loss most likely which would be bad for their at-large chances with no quad 1 wins I'd think not to mention probably drop them into the 50s in the NET ratings.

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    Gotchya… hard to imagine a team getting T25 votes not making the tourney but that’s midmajor MBB for ya…
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsBison View Post
    NDSU probally got the worst draw it could have. Gotta beat both South Dakota schools and ORU to win it all with no days rest, going to be quite the challenge. USD certainly isnt great but they are old and experienced and being 30 mins from Sioux Falls will draw a crowd. I dont see anyone beat ORU, while they arent super deep the day off should help them cruise to the title game.
    Coulda been worse if we would've lost Saturday, woulda had to play St Thomas again and then ORU in the semi finals before even getting to the championship. If this team plays how they are capable of playing, like the 1st halves against Omaha and WIU on Saturday we could very easily make the championship game. USD looked good Saturday but tough to measure anybody against KC right now, they are terrible without Allen. SDSU goes as Mayo goes, if we can contain him we can definitely beat them. Hell we let him score 40 in the last game and still almost won. ORU is another animal, we had our shot at their place and could make the shots to get it done. That being said if Dave has ruined all the fun for these guys after that last game we could also come out and lose to USD in the first round, it'll be very interesting to see how this team responds.

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    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Oral Roberts going undefeated in the SL is great---even if its a "down" year overall

    after that----seeding I don't think means much as anyone from 2-7 can beat each other

    SDSU and NDSU both probably worst teams each school has had in last ten years

    I like that we have to play USD and potentially SDSU if win-----Think this team NEEDS to play in front of a crowd to possibly play better--might help them CONCENTRATE better!

    Things we need to see to WIN SUNDAY.....

    Guards make more than 5 3's----helps with spacing so much

    Andrew Morgan attack Kameteros and limit his effectiveness! Grant helps on drop coverage for all guards who get beat off dribble so don't want him guarding other teams best post player---especially since Kameteros can hit spot up 3

    Can Tjavis Miller play any defense so can stay on the floor? Just looks to ME that has very little effort when playing defense----also does he know you only get 3 points if shoot a 3 at the line and don't get 4 points for taking a 3 that is 3-4 feet deeper

    Boden has really stepped up 2nd half of season to form a nice duo with Grant---he's also stepped up as 2nd best rebounder----be nice if Jacari White can protect the ball so Boden doesn't have to guard Perrot-Hunt too

    DWT can take advantage I think of attacking Plitzuiwet too---as he's not the same player after knee injury

    WHO CAN BE THE THIRD SCORER IN DOUBLE FIGURES?????

    Also, I don't want to see refs BAIL OUT smaller wings/guards attempting to guard Grant and flopping to take a charge on him----cmon refs!!!

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