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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderingherd View Post
    Cant an engineering student on scholarship get a part time job while at a state sponsored school?
    Student ... or student-athlete ... is what the NCAA would clamor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    The NCAA is there to enforce the rules. Teams don't punish themselves. There are rules and they are ignored.

    Selling cheating as free market is like calling child labor, the right to work

    If you want pro sports, make them club level teams. Not state college sponsored because tax payers have no business funding a pro team that pays mediocre football players more than the university president. Its against everything amatuer sports is about.
    Bot, wake up. The NCAA isn't there to enforce the rules. The NCAA is there to enforce the rules that the powerful members want. This is nothing new and has been going on for decades. In this instance, the NCAA is just going to say that the schools you know, can't pay the players because you know it's amateur, but oh wait the boosters can do whatever they want that's fine. Just powerful enough to keep themselves from accountability, not powerful enough to hold themselves accountable. Hell of a setup.

    SMU gets the death penalty, while UT, OU and the rest of the Southwest Conference get off scot free.
    UNC gets a slap on the wrist for athletic department-wide academic cheating.
    Bill Self gets caught knee deep in an illegal (not like against NCAA rules illegal, like federal RICO conspiracy illegal) scheme that involved a major non-US company and fundamentally undermined competition in recruiting across D1. What did he sit out a couple games and that's it?
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    I truly wish it was the smelly Bisons we were playing Saturday. How could you all have shit the bed like that (SHSU)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    Bot, wake up. The NCAA isn't there to enforce the rules. The NCAA is there to enforce the rules that the powerful members want. This is nothing new and has been going on for decades. In this instance, the NCAA is just going to say that the schools you know, can't pay the players because you know it's amateur, but oh wait the boosters can do whatever they want that's fine. Just powerful enough to keep themselves from accountability, not powerful enough to hold themselves accountable. Hell of a setup.

    SMU gets the death penalty, while UT, OU and the rest of the Southwest Conference get off scot free.
    UNC gets a slap on the wrist for athletic department-wide academic cheating.
    Bill Self gets caught knee deep in an illegal (not like against NCAA rules illegal, like federal RICO conspiracy illegal) scheme that involved a major US company and fundamentally undermined competition in recruiting across D1. What did he sit out a couple games and that's it?
    That's it!! perfectly said. Decades long debate over having the student athletes getting a piece of the pie and it was solved by pushing that onto the private sector. done. genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    The NCAA is there to enforce the rules. Teams don't punish themselves. There are rules and they are ignored.

    Selling cheating as free market is like calling child labor, the right to work

    If you want pro sports, make them club level teams. Not state college sponsored because tax payers have no business funding a pro team that pays mediocre football players more than the university president. Itís against everything amatuer sports is about.
    Of course itís against everything that amateur sports is about. When there are billions of dollars exchanging hands itís not amateur sports anymore no matter how hard you want it to be.

    Also, where do you get off thinking that tax payers arenít supporting professional sports in this country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Of course it’s against everything that amateur sports is about. When there are billions of dollars exchanging hands it’s not amateur sports anymore no matter how hard you want it to be.

    Also, where do you get off thinking that tax payers aren’t supporting professional sports in this country?
    I'd prefer the NCAA without the P5 honestly. That would allow for some real reform.

    That said, I think that things will settle down in a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    The NCAA is there to enforce the rules. Teams don't punish themselves. There are rules and they are ignored.

    Selling cheating as free market is like calling child labor, the right to work

    If you want pro sports, make them club level teams. Not state college sponsored because tax payers have no business funding a pro team that pays mediocre football players more than the university president. Its against everything amatuer sports is about.
    You're almost to the point of seeing the forest for the trees.

    Speaking of forests, forest fires bring new growth. What we need is a raging forest fire, not the NCAA CSI futilely chasing hot tips from the tampering hotline.

    Club teams- I actually like the idea, however we're already a century plus deep into the rabbit hole of colleges supporting semi-pro teams and can't even form unified rules for multiple levels of play (football being the worst). Good luck separating the two now.
    Would private schools still be allowed to have pro teams without support from the state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderingherd View Post
    Cant an engineering student on scholarship get a part time job while at a state sponsored school?
    Thats not the issur we are talking about. Wr are talking about tampering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonguy View Post
    You're almost to the point of seeing the forest for the trees.

    Speaking of forests, forest fires bring new growth. What we need is a raging forest fire, not the NCAA CSI futilely chasing hot tips from the tampering hotline.

    Club teams- I actually like the idea, however we're already a century plus deep into the rabbit hole of colleges supporting semi-pro teams and can't even form unified rules for multiple levels of play (football being the worst). Good luck separating the two now.
    Would private schools still be allowed to have pro teams without support from the state?
    You are correct on the difficulty of going from state to club

    But you cant let rules slide. If you dont enforce speeding, street racing forms. If you let homeless people camp, tent cities will form. If you let teams tamper, they will send a team of recruiters to schools to quietly inform top players, if they enter the transfer portal, they will sign threm. If there are no penalties, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Thats not the issur we are talking about. Wr are talking about tampering
    From you: "Not state college sponsored because tax payers have no business funding a pro team that pays mediocre football players more than the university president. Its against everything amatuer sports is about."

    My bad. Seemed like you were talking about both issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    Bot, wake up. The NCAA isn't there to enforce the rules. The NCAA is there to enforce the rules that the powerful members want. This is nothing new and has been going on for decades. In this instance, the NCAA is just going to say that the schools you know, can't pay the players because you know it's amateur, but oh wait the boosters can do whatever they want that's fine. Just powerful enough to keep themselves from accountability, not powerful enough to hold themselves accountable. Hell of a setup.

    SMU gets the death penalty, while UT, OU and the rest of the Southwest Conference get off scot free.
    UNC gets a slap on the wrist for athletic department-wide academic cheating.
    Bill Self gets caught knee deep in an illegal (not like against NCAA rules illegal, like federal RICO conspiracy illegal) scheme that involved a major non-US company and fundamentally undermined competition in recruiting across D1. What did he sit out a couple games and that's it?
    Lets see how everyone likes it when the middle to bottom half of the P5 starts getting gutted. See how happy PJ Fleck is when Ohio State takes his 2 best players every year. Or when Georgia takes K-States starting QB. It's not going to end well. The G5 schools will get gutted. You will see practice squads that would be a solid G5 team

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