McFeely: Time for NDSU to jump into NIL pool

[reformedUNDfan]

Herd is right here. Lead or be led.

Having advanced NIL will look good to the AAC or MWC

[THEsocalledfan]

If we want to continue to be a top tier program, and get the invite to FBS or whatever happens after the P3 or whatever break off, this is the new reality.

I just hope all those who ripped the NCAA to shreds for preserving amateurism get behind this. A blind donkey could have seen this stuff coming.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

Herd is right here. Lead or be led.

Having advanced NIL will look good to the AAC or MWC

Why stop at competing with the G5 level NIL when we really want the P5 level talent. If we want those guys we need to have P5 level NIL, money is going to drive these kids more than a chance to win titles or attend QBU

[HerdBot]

Why stop at competing with the G5 level NIL when we really want the P5 level talent. If we want those guys we need to have P5 level NIL, money is going to drive these kids more than a chance to win titles or attend QBU

I agree. Especially at the QB position

[IndyBison]

It seems like the obvious solution to that little conundrum is to stop pretending that what you’re doing is educating students, then all you have to do is pay them what they’re worth.

98% of the student athletes are students first. There are 90 championships in NCAA across all divisions and the percentage of those athletes receiving NIL are very small. Top P5 football and men's basketball programs and maybe a couple others are in the context of this conversation. If you trove the educational aspect of the student athletes you become a professional minor league that has no reason to be associated with a university. That actually where I see this going on the current trend. Alabama and Notre Dame still have football programs but in the same sense they have baseball and soccer programs. Some support beyond friends and family but not the huge support you have today. You'll go to minor league games to watch many of the top players you watch today. An NDSU competes with them similar to baseball and track. We are definitely closer but fewer people will care.

Careful what you ask for. You may just get it.

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[bisonaudit]

98% of the student athletes are students first. There are 90 championships in NCAA across all divisions and the percentage of those athletes receiving NIL are very small. Top P5 football and men's basketball programs and maybe a couple others are in the context of this conversation. If you trove the educational aspect of the student athletes you become a professional minor league that has no reason to be associated with a university. That actually where I see this going on the current trend. Alabama and Notre Dame still have football programs but in the same sense they have baseball and soccer programs. Some support beyond friends and family but not the huge support you have today. You'll go to minor league games to watch many of the top players you watch today. An NDSU competes with them similar to baseball and track. We are definitely closer but fewer people will care.

Careful what you ask for. You may just get it.

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I didn’t mean to suggest such a thing would apply to every sport really just the “revenue” sports. If you stop pretending that top flight college football is anything other than a developmental league for the NFL a lot of title IX “problems” solve themselves.

[Gully]

I didn’t mean to suggest such a thing would apply to every sport really just the “revenue” sports. If you stop pretending that to flight college football is anything other than a developmental league for the NFL a lot of title IX “problems” solve themselves.

but don't the "revenue" sports pay for all the rest of it? also, if FB goes away, so will a lot of female scholarships because they'll no longer be required for title IX.

[Professor Chaos]

I'd assume it's only a matter of time before NDSU has a "foundation" similar to Ohio State: https://www.thefoundationohio.com/

If you’re passionate about Ohio State Athletics, and you have the means, we ask that you kindly donate to The Foundation. Your donations will directly benefit Ohio State Student-Athletes while raising awareness for one of our approved charities. You will receive a receipt after your donation that can be saved for tax write-off purposes. Donating to The Foundation is a win-win.

It'll be interesting to see the hoops some of these foundations jump through in order to main 501(c)3 charitable status. It'll also be interesting to see who, other than the student-athletes, gets fatter pocketbooks off of these types of things.

[bisonaudit]

I'd assume it's only a matter of time before NDSU has a "foundation" similar to Ohio State: https://www.thefoundationohio.com/



It'll be interesting to see the hoops some of these foundations jump through in order to main 501(c)3 charitable status. It'll also be interesting to see who, other than the student-athletes, gets fatter pocketbooks off of these types of things.

That’s how shamaturism works. Everyone else gets paid first and the people who actually do the thing that we pay to see get the scraps.

[taper]

but don't the "revenue" sports pay for all the rest of it? also, if FB goes away, so will a lot of female scholarships because they'll no longer be required for title IX.

Title IX doesn't go away if FB players get paid. It applies to pretty much everything associated with educational institutions that receive federal funds. It is not aimed specifically at athletics, even if that's what the general public sees the most. Not saying the big dogs might not try to "spin off" FB and MBB but that'll almost certainly go to court, and who knows what'll happen then. While I'm not making any predictions on the result, I expect someone will sue over men's sports receiving far more NIL than women's.