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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life View Post
    One thing that Ross Uglem mentioned on his podcast that I may not have previously taken note of, Cam Miller is the highest rated recruit in program history. I guess because he was probably going to sit behind Trey for a few years and then got thrown in as a true freshman out of his depth, it wasn't obvious. This kid should probably be Brock Jensen to Cole Payton's Carson Wentz.
    Ross had a great comment " Cam Miller is not "the little engine that could". Cam Miller, was the highest rated recruit in the HISTORY of Bison football when he committed"

    Again, just so impressed to see him now vs the spring. If he throws on a different Jersey number, we would all be asking "who the hell is this new kid under center???"
    1. The FCS was the Best option for NDSU for a very long time.
    2. As a general rule- the FCS sucks at football and has proven that is not committed to football at all.
    3. It's time to go FBS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    Here is the top 10... Cam is now #2 behind Hegerle. 2021 class doesn't have rankings loaded.

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    That list just shows you how stars are only part of the picture.
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    Cam is light years ahead of where he was last spring. Count me in the Miller Time fan club!

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    I'm with you Road. This team the past two weeks is light
    years ahead of their production offensively early in the year.
    Cam is a dude and bring Tamarek along with him. 19 for 23
    last week passing is opening up the run game. We're rolling.
    We have so many options and we are finally starting to utilize them.

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    I love his pocket presence and how he moves around with the pressure. I hate when they make designed qb runs for him. But when a play breaks down he can get yards with his legs.

    Also he is lethal with play action under center.

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    Cam seems comfortable under center than in the shotgun. I was impressed with him at Youngstown St.

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    Since taking over during the MSU game, here's how Cam compares statistically to QB's going back to 2010:
    Year QB Comp % Comp Att Yds Yds/Comp Yds/Att
    2021 Miller 74.4 61 82 897 14.7 10.9
    2021 Patterson 54.5 55 101 813 14.8 8.0
    2020 Noland 51.0 51 100 721 14.1 7.2
    2020 Miller 50.8 30 59 363 12.1 6.2
    2019 Lance 66.9 192 287 2768 14.4 9.6
    2018 Stick 62.3 175 281 2752 15.7 9.8
    2017 Stick 62.1 164 264 2466 15.0 9.3
    2016 Stick 58.7 169 288 2331 13.8 8.1
    2015 Stick 61.2 90 147 1144 12.7 7.8
    2015 Wentz 62.5 130 208 1651 12.7 7.9
    2014 Wentz 63.7 228 358 3111 13.6 8.7
    2013 Jensen 66.3 218 329 2793 12.8 8.5
    2012 Jensen 61.2 207 338 2331 11.3 6.9
    2011 Jensen 67.2 219 326 2524 11.5 7.7
    2010 Jensen 45.0 59 131 950 16.1 7.3
    2010 Mohler 58.7 101 172 1181 11.7 6.9

    These statistics are eye opening. I think someone used the word elite in terms of Cams performance at one point (perhaps in reference to MSU game?). His stats since taking over in that game are on par with Easton in 2017 and Trey and 2019. I'd say the only performance that exceeds his play so far this year was Easton in 2018. If he keeps playing at that same high level, we will win several more championships in the next several years, no question about it. His improvement between the spring and the last 5 games is absurd and is unrivaled when comparing him to a young Brock and young Easton. Say what you want about Cole Payton's abilities, but these numbers and this type of performance are going to be hard to put back on the bench. This says a lot about Cam but also a lot about the coaching to get him to this point in short period of time when he wasn't getting all the reps as the No. 1. The rumors of our demise have been greatly over-exaggerated!! We have the one thing this team needed, a championship caliber quarterback!!!

    P.S: Those 2021 statistics for Cam were against play-off teams in 3 of 5 games.

    P.S.S: The only time we don't win a national championships going back to 2010 is when our QB's have a completion percentage less than 60%. Mohler and Jensen combined to complete 52.8% in 2010, Stick completed 58.7% in 2016, and Noland and Miller combined to complete 50.9% in the spring of 2020 (Lance completed 50% in his lone 2020 start).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisManBison View Post
    Since taking over during the MSU game, here's how Cam compares statistically to QB's going back to 2010:
    Year QB Comp % Comp Att Yds Yds/Comp Yds/Att
    2021 Miller 74.4 61 82 897 14.7 10.9
    2021 Patterson 54.5 55 101 813 14.8 8.0
    2020 Noland 51.0 51 100 721 14.1 7.2
    2020 Miller 50.8 30 59 363 12.1 6.2
    2019 Lance 66.9 192 287 2768 14.4 9.6
    2018 Stick 62.3 175 281 2752 15.7 9.8
    2017 Stick 62.1 164 264 2466 15.0 9.3
    2016 Stick 58.7 169 288 2331 13.8 8.1
    2015 Stick 61.2 90 147 1144 12.7 7.8
    2015 Wentz 62.5 130 208 1651 12.7 7.9
    2014 Wentz 63.7 228 358 3111 13.6 8.7
    2013 Jensen 66.3 218 329 2793 12.8 8.5
    2012 Jensen 61.2 207 338 2331 11.3 6.9
    2011 Jensen 67.2 219 326 2524 11.5 7.7
    2010 Jensen 45.0 59 131 950 16.1 7.3
    2010 Mohler 58.7 101 172 1181 11.7 6.9

    These statistics are eye opening. I think someone used the word elite in terms of Cams performance at one point (perhaps in reference to MSU game?). His stats since taking over in that game are on par with Easton in 2017 and Trey and 2019. I'd say the only performance that exceeds his play so far this year was Easton in 2018. If he keeps playing at that same high level, we will win several more championships in the next several years, no question about it. His improvement between the spring and the last 5 games is absurd and is unrivaled when comparing him to a young Brock and young Easton. Say what you want about Cole Payton's abilities, but these numbers and this type of performance are going to be hard to put back on the bench. This says a lot about Cam but also a lot about the coaching to get him to this point in short period of time when he wasn't getting all the reps as the No. 1. The rumors of our demise have been greatly over-exaggerated!! We have the one thing this team needed, a championship caliber quarterback!!!

    P.S: Those 2021 statistics for Cam were against play-off teams in 3 of 5 games.

    P.S.S: The only time we don't win a national championships going back to 2010 is when our QB's have a completion percentage less than 60%. Mohler and Jensen combined to complete 52.8% in 2010, Stick completed 58.7% in 2016, and Noland and Miller combined to complete 50.9% in the spring of 2020 (Lance completed 50% in his lone 2020 start).
    Nice work on this. Cam's improvement from spring to now is incredible.
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    Cam is so good he beat out two different FBS transfers to be a starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    Cam is so good he beat out two different FBS transfers to be a starter.
    This is true, and not just FBS transfers, a 3 and a 4 star kid from P5 programs.

    One of Ross' favorite metrics is adjusted Yards per attempt, which (I BELIEVE) adds 45 yds for every TD and subtracts 30 Yds for every interception.

    Basically rewards QBs for taking care of the football and being lethal when they do throw the ball. From what I remember, using this stat is pretty damn effective in sorting out how legit a QB really is (it showed Stick being the best in the FCS and 2nd or 3rd in the FBS, which ended up being pretty accurate).

    This metric would be EXTREMELY favorable for Cam
    1. The FCS was the Best option for NDSU for a very long time.
    2. As a general rule- the FCS sucks at football and has proven that is not committed to football at all.
    3. It's time to go FBS

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