NDSU to CUSA

[GreenfieldBison]

SDSU isn't going anywhere. That is from a pretty credible source that works with athletes down there.

It came right out of Stigs mouth in a presser a week ago.


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[EC8CH]

SDSU isn't going anywhere. That is from a pretty credible source that works with athletes down there.

Taco Juan's can't subsidize the cost of FBS tickets.

[El_Chapo]

says they aren't afraid of NDSU then runs to NDSU board to proclaim that they aren't afraid of NDSU.

the lady doth protests too much

0 chance of sdsu

NDSU is going alone, that's why a football only invite works

[MWC]

says they aren't afraid of NDSU then runs to NDSU board to proclaim that they aren't afraid of NDSU.

the lady doth protests too much

0 chance of sdsu

NDSU is going alone, that's why a football only invite works

Well that is some strange logic on your part, I will give you that.

[El_Chapo]

well of course NDSU football would win right away at Mountain West, anyone that knows college football the last 10 years can see that. So obviously your presidents/ads don't want that.

maybe when Boise goes to big 12 with Memphis than NDSU can take their spot. NDSU belongs in the MWC or BIG 12 that's it..

[MWC]

well of course NDSU football would win right away at Mountain West, anyone that knows college football the last 10 years can see that. So obviously your presidents/ads don't want that.

maybe when Boise goes to big 12 with Memphis than NDSU can take their spot. NDSU belongs in the MWC or BIG 12 that's it..

I like your spunk..

[SDbison]

Hello, I have been reading your board for awhile since a couple of Bison fans came to the MW board calling for a football only invitation for NDSU. I have no problem with ambition. My school moved up to D1A 30 years ago. I can speak to how hard a slog it is to get established, maintain competitiveness and move up the conference ladder. I am not saying that NDSU can't be a success if they move up, they can. But it ain't easy..Even Boise struggled early on. The Big West was a good starter conference and the WAC was a step up But BSU and Nevada had to go through that to even get a chance at the MW.

Anyhoo, I just wanted to stick up for the MW a bit as I have seen a number of misconceptions aired here and on other boards.

Number 1..No school in the MW is afraid to play NDSU or worried that the Bison would dominate the conference from day one. Past history refutes that notion. The conference invited TCU and Boise fully understanding they would be top football programs..They wanted that..

2. There seems to be a notion that Hawaii is some sort of special deal and that NDSU's location should not be a problem. Hawaii pays up to 900 thousand bucks a football season in travel subsidies. They also do not receive a full share of the tv revenue. They make up for this by having an exclusive deal with a Hawaii based network. In addition, I believe they pay subsidies to the Big West to house their Olympic Sports.

The problem for NDSU is the MW would not extend a football only invitation unless you were willing to pay like Hawaii. If not Hawaii would likely sue the MW..and win..

There are other issues for NDSU. The MW already has 12 schools and is not looking to add any school at this time. If schools leave in the future there might be interest in expanding but the original MW had 8 schools and the most successful version had 9. Less than 12 works just fine. The conference got to 12 kind of by accident when Boise State and San Diego State left the (10 football, 9 Oly sports) MW, for the Big East, the conference added 2 so there would be 9 Oly sports schools. Things didn't work out for Boise and SDSU and they were welcomed back to the MW

The other problem for you has nothing to do with your fine football program. The California and Nevada schools would not be in favor of giving you an all sports invitation. Nobody wants to send their non revenue sports to Fargo. Nothing against your town or your airport but it is expensive to fly to small airports..

Finally, the MW is not an ESPN conference and quite unlikely to be one again anytime soon. Fox and CBS are our providers and we have side deals with stadium to provide streaming. The main appeal to the providers is the PST and MST time slots. The Pac 12 has their own network so if providers want those time slots they look to the MW. It means night games, which sucks, but that is the deal. I believe Fargo is in the CST zone. There are jillions of schools in CST.

The bottom line is NDSU does not offer anything the MW doesn't already have. That is no slight on NDSU but it means that the MW is neither arrogant or unreasonable in any of these expansion scenarios. They aren't desperate either..

I wish you luck..Though I really enjoyed the Big Sky days, the reality is either grow or wither..My school was where you are now and I understand the frustration.

Key words from this Mountain West poster ........."the reality is either grow or wither". This is something that NDSU admin, coaches, players, alumni, and fans need to seriously consider. We are at a crossroads and the decision to wait and do nothing will have ramifications. But then there is lots of fear and apathy out there so why be brave and opportunistic.

[CAS4127]

Key words from this Mountain West poster ........."the reality is either grow or wither". This is something that NDSU admin, coaches, players, alumni, and fans need to seriously consider. We are at a crossroads and the decision to wait and do nothing will have ramifications. But then there is lots of fear and apathy out there so why be brave and opportunistic.

Watching the directional Michigan MACNation schools tonight. Not good football, at all. And less than a 1000 fans, way less.

[GreenfieldBison]

Watching the directional Michigan MACNation schools tonight. Not good football, at all. And less than a 1000 fans, way less.

Anomaly or standard? Thoughts if any on MAC vs MVFC?


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[Kevin]

Watching the directional Michigan MACNation schools tonight. Not good football, at all. And less than a 1000 fans, way less.

Wtf is this field? I thought something was wrong with my tv.