NDSU to CUSA

[BigLakeBison]

Why would the G5 want anything to do with the FCS schools, even the ones you list? What's in it for them? I can think of plenty of reasons why they'd exclude all the FCS schools they could, similar to how they do now.

Too many mouths to feed
Exclusivity makes them feel better, keeps administrators paid and boosters smiling
Keeping schools FCS means you can still get the ridiculously cheap pay games
Top FCS schools are better than mediocre FBS teams, gotta keep them an arm's distance away

NDSU is not in a position of strength currently. This has been acknowledged by rational people on both sides of this discussion throughout this process, yet there's some who believe that somehow staying in the FCS longer will give us more leverage down the road that we will then be able to use to solicit an invite to the MWC or the Big 12 at a later date. There is no rational thought in that. The G5 with all of its flaws and faults still carries more weight than any program in the FCS. That will never change whether the P5 splits or not. They are going to hold on to that label and the leverage that comes with it as long as they can.

[El_Chapo]

Right! You just need to get in, take that first step, you cannot get to the top of the stairs without walking up all the steps with very, very, few exceptions

[Professorbum]

https://theathletic.com/news/confere.../BAEjTewaDa07/

In this Chris Vannini article in the Athletic about Liberty, NMSU, SHSU, and JSU being officially added to CUSA, he talks about other schools that have been in communication with CUSA. Tarleton State, EKU, and SFA all mentioned. UConn mentioned as considering its options, having talked about football-only with CUSA. NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of NDSU. No mention that NDSU has reached out. No mention of NDSU as a good football-only option. NDSU is not in the conversation. I think if we were in the mix, it would have been reported by now at some level, by someone. I really don't think it is going to happen. We will see this round realignment come and go, and FCS will be (already has been) raided, and we'll still be FCS. I will of course wait and see and hope, but I am guessing we'll stay put. During the time period from when we first should have sought to move up until now, we will have seen App State, Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, JMU, SHSU, JSU, and probably a couple others all move up to FBS while we sat with our thumbs up our ass, beating up on lousy teams in their high school stadiums. If we miss this round of realignment, as I suspect we will, we truly deserve to stay in FCS forever. A school administration and half of its fans can't be so wrong for so long before the other half of us have to realize, maybe that's just who we are.

[56BISON73]

Everybody is going to get to 16 eventually. The SEC has already set the bar.

Ive always hated 2 divisions. But that seem to be where everyone is headed.

[NDSUstudent]

It is easy to go to 16 when you have OU and Texas sitting there. The other conferences don't have that luxury.

[The_Sicatoka]

C-USA makes it official.
https://conferenceusa.com/news/2021/...r-members.aspx

They scoop two, in-footprint, FCS: SHSU, J-State.


Now ... what do WKU and MTSU do in light of this ...
I'm hearing if WKU/MTSU go to the MAC, then C-USA would look at Missouri State and Chattanooga ...again, footprint schools.
If WKU/MTSU stay C-USA ... who knows.


It looks more and more that the only way FBS gets to this neck of the woods is if we build it for ourselves.

[Professorbum]

C-USA makes it official.
https://conferenceusa.com/news/2021/...r-members.aspx

They scoop two, in-footprint, FCS: SHSU, J-State.


Now ... what do WKU and MTSU do in light of this ...

those are nice summary statements on each of those schools. They would competitive conference mates. Our summary description in a CUSA welcome statement would look pretty impressive too.

[MankatoBison]

https://theathletic.com/news/confere.../BAEjTewaDa07/

In this Chris Vannini article in the Athletic about Liberty, NMSU, SHSU, and JSU being officially added to CUSA, he talks about other schools that have been in communication with CUSA. Tarleton State, EKU, and SFA all mentioned. UConn mentioned as considering its options, having talked about football-only with CUSA. NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of NDSU. No mention that NDSU has reached out. No mention of NDSU as a good football-only option. NDSU is not in the conversation. I think if we were in the mix, it would have been reported by now at some level, by someone. I really don't think it is going to happen. We will see this round realignment come and go, and FCS will be (already has been) raided, and we'll still be FCS. I will of course wait and see and hope, but I am guessing we'll stay put. During the time period from when we first should have sought to move up until now, we will have seen App State, Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, JMU, SHSU, JSU, and probably a couple others all move up to FBS while we sat with our thumbs up our ass, beating up on lousy teams in their high school stadiums. If we miss this round of realignment, as I suspect we will, we truly deserve to stay in FCS forever. A school administration and half of its fans can't be so wrong for so long before the other half of us have to realize, maybe that's just who we are.

No no no ProfBum.... if we just WAIT THIS OUT, the Big 10 will definitely be calling us soon. Its only a matter of time if we go now, we could maybe go Cusa, and someday go MWC in 5 years or so

BUT...

If we wait 25 years, we can go MWC, if we wait 40 years, we can get Big 12, 50 years B1G, 75 years SEC... But if we wait one BILLION YEARS we're going to get invited to the NFC north.

I mean, I'm all in for moving up, but only under the right circumstances

[Bison 4 Life]

It is easy to go to 16 when you have OU and Texas sitting there. The other conferences don't have that luxury.

OU and Texas go to SEC

Houston, BYU, Cincinnati, UCF to Big 12

The dominoes are already starting to fall.

[El_Chapo]

C-USA makes it official.
https://conferenceusa.com/news/2021/...r-members.aspx

They scoop two, in-footprint, FCS: SHSU, J-State.


Now ... what do WKU and MTSU do in light of this ...
I'm hearing if WKU/MTSU go to the MAC, then C-USA would look at Missouri State and Chattanooga ...again, footprint schools.
If WKU/MTSU stay C-USA ... who knows.


It looks more and more that the only way FBS gets to this neck of the woods is if we build it for ourselves.

gotta love the und guy begging us to include them. LOL #Rich

another reason to solicit the CUSA. Get rid of the dead weight of the MVFC