NDSU to CUSA

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

For what it’s worth, Sagarin has all three directional Michigan schools as ~20 point favorites over western Ill and indy state.

No one is going to confuse the MAC with great football but it’s certainly not worse than the valley and if anything is usually slightly better.

Sagarin’s take on this question (FWIW). Suggests that EMU and WMU would be FCS playoff teams

61 NDSU
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69 SDSU
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83 JMU
84 Georgia
85 Indiana
86 Ball State
87 Central Michigan
88 Western Michigan
89 Northwestern
90 Sam Houston
91 Wyoming
92 Tulsa
93 Miami-Ohio
94 Northern Illinois
95 Eastern Washington
96 Colorado
97 Colorado State
98 Missouri State
99 Georgia State
100 Eastern Michigan
101 Northern Iowa
102 Southern Illinois

[BattleBorn]

I just scooped up.front row tickets for face value.for usd game. the last 10 years these would be $150/tickets all day long & 20th row would be $75-$100.

Apathy is here and it's not a good look, I don't know how many people I've seen say. IM OUT in the last year.

NDSU needs to do something FAST. and CUSA is the only option to do this fast. then in 2-3 years you approach the MWC

Coming by the trailer for a mint julep then?

[BattleBorn]

I would've given you mine for nothing meathead. But the CUSA for 3-5 years won't get me back either. Wonderful thing: there's other things to do on fall Saturdays.

I'll gladly take your front row tickets for nothing!

[NDSU92]

Sagarin’s take on this question (FWIW). Suggests that EMU and WMU would be FCS playoff teams

61 NDSU
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69 SDSU
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83 JMU
84 Georgia
85 Indiana
86 Ball State
87 Central Michigan
88 Western Michigan
89 Northwestern
90 Sam Houston
91 Wyoming
92 Tulsa
93 Miami-Ohio
94 Northern Illinois
95 Eastern Washington
96 Colorado
97 Colorado State
98 Missouri State
99 Georgia State
100 Eastern Michigan
101 Northern Iowa
102 Southern Illinois

And Western Michigan is currently in last place in the MAC West, Eastern Michigan is I think third. MAC West is better than MAC East, but these are hardly the best teams in the conference

[The_Sicatoka]

Massey Ratings:

MAC 6.04 ( https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1 )
MVFC 6.02 ( https://masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings?c=1 )

[MankatoBison]

Massey Ratings:

MAC 6.04 ( https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings?c=1 )
MVFC 6.02 ( https://masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings?c=1 )

Take out NDSU, and put them in the MAC, and the ratings arent even close

[gotts]

Strong post filled with common sense and sound reasoning

Welcome!

This site is best enjoyed with your head up your ass (at least that's what I'm told, I have my head up my ass and can't tell for sure).

[MankatoBison]

To answer/respond to both you and Greenfield—>pretty comparable.

And to Kev re: field—>wtf is that and what were they thinking?! And that’s rhetorical. The sad thing is that someone did think about it and made the final decision. I don’t assume any so-called “experts” in any field know WTF they are doing. Just mind boggling.

uhhh no. literally every FBS program would be favored by multiple touchdowns over well over half of FCS teams, Indiana state and western included, as long as your name is UConn and UMass. If you exclude Uconn/Umass, every FBS program would be favored by vegas to beat literally every single FCS team not currently in the top 15 or even top 10 by multiple touchdowns.

Even terrible terrible terrible G5 schools are better than legitimately 90% of the FCS and its not even close. If this were not the case, FCS would win G5 FBS games at a much better clip than about 6%

[HerdBot]

The caliber of football NDSU played diminished by staying D2 too long. That is a fact. History repeats itself, but it doesn't have to.

This is so true. But this time, we are even better at FCS than we were at D2. If you think about it, we've won more Natty's than our 80's D2 teams won and that was next level impressive.

Our facilities are so much better than they were back in the D2 days that it's even more laughable. Imagine if we had a $50 million dollar IPF when Bob Babich was around? Heck, the Bison coaching offices used to be in the old Bison Sports Arena

[IndyBison]

uhhh no. literally every FBS program would be favored by multiple touchdowns over well over half of FCS teams, Indiana state and western included, as long as your name is UConn and UMass. If you exclude Uconn/Umass, every FBS program would be favored by vegas to beat literally every single FCS team not currently in the top 15 or even top 10 by multiple touchdowns.

Even terrible terrible terrible G5 schools are better than legitimately 90% of the FCS and its not even close. If this were not the case, FCS would win G5 FBS games at a much better clip than about 6%

I have several friends who have officiated in the MVFC and MAC. They notice a general difference in the quality of players in the MAC especially RBs and WRs. Top teams in the MVFC can definitely compete in the MAC so this is more of a general statement. The best NDSU teams would definitely be strong in the MAC especially for 1 or 2 games. It's not a huge gap but probably bigger at the bottom of the conference.

Atmosphere in the MVFC is generally better though especially on these midweek games.

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