Fargodome officially getting new turf

[Bison03]

You kind of technically already have that. 95% of the time the series starts with the nose of the ball on the back of a yard line. This makes the back of the line 10 yards away the line to gain. So there are already 99 first down lines on the field. 19 of them cover the width of the field. When a runner is ruled down the wings decide if he made that line similar to the goal line. That's why you rarely see measurements any longer.

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But balls aren’t always spotted exactly on a yardline.

[IndyBison]

But balls aren’t always spotted exactly on a yardline.

They are 95% of the time on first down. It's very intentional for this reason.

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[southcliffbison]

That's bad enough to almost be pretty cool idea for the endzone. Certainly would be unique!

I guess you could call that field in Cheney, Washington, unique also.

[Gully]

Someone suggested checkerboard enzones....I think they should do that but with all of the boxes in the same color. That way you couldn't see the checkboard, but you'd know it was there.

[Gully]

How about pylon cameras or at least a camera straight down the goal line?

Cue Hammer breaking out the camera specifications from 1993 and the drawings for the chips in the pylons

[BisonHorns]

Someone suggested checkerboard enzones....I think they should do that but with all of the boxes in the same color. That way you couldn't see the checkboard, but you'd know it was there.

That is what we have now. It is a shame you haven't been enjoying it as much as the rest of us.

[Hammerhead]

They are 95% of the time on first down. It's very intentional for this reason.

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They are 100% of the time on punt and kickoff returns. Even when it's obvious that a punt never touched by anyone rolls to a stop halfway between two yard lines, the ball is spotted up to the yard line closer to the opponent's goal line.

[IndyBison]

They are 100% of the time on punt and kickoff returns. Even when it's obvious that a punt never touched by anyone rolls to a stop halfway between two yard lines, the ball is spotted up to the yard line closer to the opponent's goal line.

Exactly. But most first downs reached during the drive as well. There will be exceptions. We had fouls yesterday on kicks where penalties were enforced half the distance from the end of the kick. One was the 25 and the other was the 1. In both cases we had to start the series between yard lines.

The stat guy uses the next line and it's 1st and 10 regardless. What difference does 12 or 18 inches make at that point? It has drastically improved hand management and most people don't notice. If you see a measurement is usually for PR purposes.

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[southcliffbison]

Exactly. But most first downs reached during the drive as well. There will be exceptions. We had fouls yesterday on kicks where penalties were enforced half the distance from the end of the kick. One was the 25 and the other was the 1. In both cases we had to start the series between yard lines.

The stat guy uses the next line and it's 1st and 10 regardless. What difference does 12 or 18 inches make at that point? It has drastically improved hand management and most people don't notice. If you see a measurement is usually for PR purposes.

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There are times a crew had better measure; an example would be Bubba's ill fated, ill-advised 4 and 2 attempt from their 20 yard line. It was 3 maybe 4 inches short (that's what it looked like from the camera angle); there's no way in hell the line judge or the head linesman could tell if the ball had crossed the line to gain. Hence, the measurement.

[IndyBison]

There are times a crew had better measure; an example would be Bubba's ill fated, ill-advised 4 and 2 attempt from their 20 yard line. It was 3 maybe 4 inches short (that's what it looked like from the camera angle); there's no way in hell the line judge or the head linesman could tell if the ball had crossed the line to gain. Hence, the measurement.

The spot itself is not precise to the MM and you are bringing in a chain that was clipped by someone 2-4 yards from the sideline based on a very inexact placement of the back stake. The wing knows which line on the field they have to reach so he makes a determination based on what he sees if the ball reached that line on the field similar to if it was the goal line.

Using the lines on the field are much more accurate than the chain and the clip. What if the stake or clip is 4-6 inches off and gives the offense a first down when they are short or shows them short when they actually reached it?

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