If Larson did have contact with the MW?

[Gully]

The concept of media markets is so 1990. With that advent of streaming, media market size is completely irrelevant. It's not like any of these G5 Leagues have their own national TV network deal like the Big Ten Network or the Pac 12 Network. You go for teams that have a good national interest. We have solid TV ratings when on ABC or ESPN (with zero promotion) and we have a national brand. That's why Nebraska was a better add than Rutgers, who in hindsight they probably regret going into the NY Market.

I would argue that the reason Conference USA will be dissolving in the near future is because they chose huge media markets with no name teams that nobody watches over quality programs with great rivalries. A good example of this is the Sunbelt choosing Georgia Southern and Appalachian State. Very small markets but they pack their stadiums and fans nationally find them interesting. Conference USA turned them down. Instead they chose huge markets like North Texas that nobody cares about it Dallas. North Texas to Dallas is what Crookston is to Fargo. When it was time to renew their TV contract, C-USA teams lost 80% of their dollars despite having bigger markets because nobody gives a fuck about half their teams. Now ironically, the Sunbelt with their little former FCS Schools will drive the final nail in C-USAs coffin by stealing their teams because they are the better conference with a better TV deal. NDSU, arguably has a better TV deal than C-USA. Check out how bad it is and it will blow your mind

But a huge asset for NDSU is being in the Central Time Zone. CBS Sports Network HATES the Pacific time zone because it cuts off the entire eastern time zone for ratings.

As far as money goes... if they lose 2 teams, they will have to replace the 2 teams so they money would not be diluted. When they renew their contract in 2025-2026, they will get dramatically less money if they don't have quality teams. Right now the AAC has the best deal, 7 million per team but that will dry up big time.

This is actually a really good post.

[HerdBot]

This is actually a really good post.

This is actually a really good post.

Much of that was stolen from Keith Brake on Bison 1660, but I haven't even touched on the huge payout difference for non conference football games

check out how much more Nebraska pays Georgia Southern compared to FCS schools

South Dakota State: Sep. 12, 2020 ($515,000); Aug. 31, 2024 ($530,000); Sep. 9, 2028 ($575,000)
North Dakota: Sep. 3, 2022 ($515,000); Sept. 19, 2026 ($560,000)
Georgia Southern: Sep. 10, 2022 ($1.42 million)

But check out these FBS guarantees

$1.95 million
UConn at Ohio State – Oct. 18, 2025

$1.925 million
ULM at Alabama – Sept. 6, 2025

$1.915 million
ULM at Alabama – Sept. 17, 2022

$1.91 million
Utah State at Alabama – Sept. 3, 2022

$1.9 million
Southern Miss at Alabama – Sept. 25, 2021
New Mexico State at Alabama – Nov. 13, 2021
WKU at Alabama – Aug. 31, 2024
UMass at Auburn – Nov. 14, 2020
New Mexico at Auburn – Sept. 14, 2024
Kent State at Georgia – Sept. 24, 2022
UAB at Georgia – Sept. 23, 2023
UMass at Georgia – Nov. 23, 2024
Charlotte at Georgia – Nov. 22, 2025
WKU at Georgia – Sept. 12, 2026
Hawaii at Michigan – Sept. 10, 2022
Cal at Notre Dame – Sept. 17, 2022
Ball State at Ohio State – Sept. 5, 2026
USF at Texas – Sept. 5, 2020
Kent State at Texas A&M – Sept. 4, 2021

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

I asssume the CUSA is now desperate. If NDSU really wants to go FBS at all costs they must approach them with a FB only invite. That limits NDSUs exposure to risk if the CUSA ultimately ends up folding and only has to look elsewhere for FB. I think now is the chance or it’s time to put FBS talk to bed. MWC isn’t happening anytime soon so forget that talk.

[THEsocalledfan]

I asssume the CUSA is now desperate. If NDSU really wants to go FBS at all costs they must approach them with a FB only invite. That limits NDSUs exposure to risk if the CUSA ultimately ends up folding and only has to look elsewhere for FB. I think now is the chance or it’s time to put FBS talk to bed. MWC isn’t happening anytime soon so forget that talk.

There is a huge danger for NDSU if they don't have a natural rival; think UN_ in the Sky. Gabe did a great job pointing that out on why sun belt has been successful. Really, really want them talking to SDSU before doing anything.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

There is a huge danger for NDSU if they don't have a natural rival; think UN_ in the Sky. Gabe did a great job pointing that out on why sun belt has been successful. Really, really want them talking to SDSU before doing anything.

FB only would be much less risk than all sports being in the Big Sky. I do agree NDSU should find a partner or partners to move up with to lessen the risk.

[BattleBorn]

FB only would be much less risk than all sports being in the Big Sky. I do agree NDSU should find a partner or partners to move up with to lessen the risk.

I love/hate SDSU for being such a good rival and taking the jump with us the first time. Would be really curious to see how this move would play out in 10 years.

[ByeSonBusiness]

I love/hate SDSU for being such a good rival and taking the jump with us the first time. Would be really curious to see how this move would play out in 10 years.

NDSU/SDSU would be ideal. Though UND/USD would be furious.

[Kevin]

NDSU/SDSU would be ideal. Though UND/USD would be furious.

Good. Fuck und they can stay behind. Again.

[23Bison]

Good. Fuck und they can stay behind. Again.

Someone get SDSU on the phone and tell them fucks, we’re moving. Then tell them we will let them know where to when we get there.

Edit: and fuck UND.

[HerdBot]

NDSU/SDSU would be ideal. Though UND/USD would be furious.

UND and USD can't move up because their stadiums don't hold the minimum attendance requirements. You can't average 15K with max capacity of 12,283 or 10K in Vermillion.

The UNI dome can hit 17K with standing room