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Thread: 2023 Recruiting Updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    24/7 has NDSU ranked #171 behind many fcs teams

    142 last year 2022
    207 2021
    141 2020

    NDSU was consistently in the 130's from 2014-2020
    So going into 247, tapped on the 170 See All.
    Found NDSU at 167.
    Showed the number of 5 Stars for NDSU - 0
    4 Stars for NDSU - 0
    3 Stars for NDSU - 1

    One? That doesn’t seem right? Why would Chapo use such a number?
    Jailen Duffie is the 3 Star - .8317 rating

    https://247sports.com/player/beau-johnson-46132063/
    https://247sports.com/player/josh-hendricks-46133945/
    https://247sports.com/player/charmar-brown-46134369/

    So there are Four 3 Star High School prospects in this NDSU class
    so far - According to 247’s own ratings.
    So I don’t need to go any further to know the 247 Composite does not work for NDSU. ESPN and Rivals don’t cover all of NDSU’s traditional recruiting footprint. Not even 247 does.
    But Chapo, well, like someone wrote the other day “Chapo gonna Chapo”
    Last edited by bruinbison; 02-03-2023 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruinbison View Post
    So going into 247, tapped on the 170 See All.
    Found NDSU at 167.
    Showed the number of 5 Stars for NDSU - 0
    4 Stars for NDSU - 0
    3 Stars for NDSU - 1

    One? That doesn’t seem right? Why would Chapo use such a number?
    Jailen Duffie is the 3 Star - .8317 rating

    https://247sports.com/player/beau-johnson-46132063/
    https://247sports.com/player/josh-hendricks-46133945/
    https://247sports.com/player/charmar-brown-46134369/

    So there are Four 3 Star High School prospects in this NDSU class
    so far - According to 247’s own ratings.
    So I don’t need to go any further to know the 247 Composite does not work for NDSU. ESPN and Rivals don’t cover all of NDSU’s traditional recruiting footprint. Not even 247 does.
    But Chapo, well, like someone wrote the other day “Chapo gonna Chapo”
    Thanks for explaining!
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    Default Re: 2023 Recruiting Updates

    the link is there. you click on 24/7 overall rankings

    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    I listed how we rank.

    that's it. that's the fact jack. people aren't clicking into the composite. this page was literally 1 of the most clicked pages in sports today for recruiting

    that's the rank they see. #171
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    the link is there. you click on 24/7 overall rankings

    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    I listed how we rank.

    that's it. that's the fact jack. people aren't clicking into the composite. this page was literally 1 of the most clicked pages in sports today for recruiting

    that's the rank they see. #171
    The only people who see that #171 as their 1st page
    ARE ON THE NDSU SITE……
    and have hit several tabs to get there, On The NDSU SITE

    It took me all of 30 seconds to look at this info.
    That is all the time it took to realize the ranking was not accurate for NDSU.
    Where did the other ranked players go?
    You spend far more time figuring out ways to put NDSU down.
    And then posting about it again and again and again.
    That is why I had such a laugh reposting your same schtich from 6 weeks ago on the Signing Day Thread.
    Last edited by bruinbison; 02-03-2023 at 11:38 AM.

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    why do you keep embarrassing yourself.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Fo...lTeamRankings/

    OVERALL TEAM RANKINGS... THATS THE LINK. THATS WHERE EVERY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN IN AMERICA CLICKS TO SEE THE RAAAAANNNNKKKKINGGS OF D1 FOOTBALL TEAMS

    we moved up to 167! pop the bottles

    Alot of us have been concerned about recruiting the last 3-4 years. it's a fact
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    why do you keep embarrassing yourself.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Fo...lTeamRankings/

    OVERALL TEAM RANKINGS... THATS THE LINK. THATS WHERE EVERY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN IN AMERICA CLICKS TO SEE THE RAAAAANNNNKKKKINGGS OF D1 FOOTBALL TEAMS

    we moved up to 167! pop the bottles

    Alot of us have been concerned about recruiting the last 3-4 years. it's a fact
    We've always been in that ballpark range. What i look for are the 0 star tall and lanky guys we can develop. Outside of Beau Johnson, I dont see much. Even his 6-7 height was exaggerated and he's 6-5

    This class the tallest player is 6-4 . Instead of putting them on the D-line, we put them at TE or OL. So on my books, this class is weak in the trenches but good at other spots

    Fortunately last year was good
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    also true Hedbot.

    we just should be reaping the benefits of this DYNASTY recruiting wise , 16 NFL PLAYERS!!!! and I feel that we haven't. just an opinion
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Default Re: 2023 Recruiting Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    We've always been in that ballpark range. What i look for are the 0 star tall and lanky guys we can develop. Outside of Beau Johnson, I dont see much. Even his 6-7 height was exaggerated and he's 6-5

    This class the tallest player is 6-4 . Instead of putting them on the D-line, we put them at TE or OL. So on my books, this class is weak in the trenches but good at other spots

    Fortunately last year was good
    We all know you are the Todd McShay and Mel Kiper of NDSU recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtoutfitter View Post
    According to the numbers SEC schools avg 229 offers per school. Big 12 offers 158 per school. So yes, you can count service academies. Also, service academies have a much higher attrition rate than other schools. I would guess it has more to do with the military lifestyle/regiment than the football program.
    Outfitter...it is that and much more. As the parent of a student-athlete who graduated from an academy...comparing them to anything is tough. The lifestyle, the service commitment, the mandated get this done in 4 years and the classes all cadets or midshipman must take as mandatory make it a totally different picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tolnabison View Post
    We all know you are the Todd McShay and Mel Kiper of NDSU recruiting.
    Right. And you apparently didnt notice how our D-line chock full of 6-1 guys got manhandled at the LOS this year when we used to be 6-3 to 6-5 across the board. Keep thinking we used to be full of Rudy type players. Nope. We used to dominate the trenches with big tall guys. They would eat up blocks and our undersized fast linebackers had space to operate in. We look like a D2 D-line now. Thats why everyone could run vs us, including Drake
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