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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    So itís spearing then?

    And you can see his eyes?

    Mine are rolling right now.

    For the record, I hate the targeting rule, as itís rare for a player to actually do so intentionally, but, if itís gonna be a rule, then call it correctly.
    He did not use the top of his helmet (former spearing). His facemask is up. When you lower your head your facemask is down. You can also use the crown on a launch so lowering your head is not the only way to get 9-1-3 targeting.

    The intent involved with targeting though is what this guy did. Flying in recklessly with no attempt to tackle. If you do that it's very unlikely you are going to commit targeting. In this case if he didn't commit targeting it wasn't for lack of trying. That's one of the reasons I'm good with the powers that be wanting this to be targeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness View Post
    Football is a fast game. You got three guys running full speed.

    Guy #1 catches the ball.
    Guy #2 initiates a tackle and begins to bring him down.
    Guy #3 is going to tackle Guy #2 who begins to go down and ends up hitting him in the head but not in a malicious way by any standard.

    If thats targeting, they need to call it about 5 times a game at least. At the very least, the spirit of the rule is not intended to penalize that play. Its supposed to stop the Vontaze Burfict's of the world. Not a play like that.
    You ever play football?

    Guy 3 dips head, launches both feet in the air, hits player 1 in his helmet so hard with his helmet he spins him 180 degrees in the air while making no attempt at wrapping up to make a tackle. Yeah, that's targeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    So momentum trumped the force/velocity of the backward toss/throw? Got it, but I need an aspirin for the headache I now have, and for other preventive measures.
    Theyíre changing the recommendations on that. Be careful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison View Post
    They’re changing the recommendations on that. Be careful.


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    Of course “they” are. Be careful, but not in the context your referencing.

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    So this lil pitch is prolly illegal too eh
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnb1gnotLr8
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    is this post in purple? Canít tell on my IPhone. If not, how do you throw a ball backwards, but have it go forward? Magic?
    CAS, go to the 4:00 mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBison97 View Post
    The missed targeting call by field and replay officials was blatant. Just like this ďforwardĒ pitch that overturned a Colts touchdown, which would have cemented a Colts win. Ravens did not have enough time to score 3 tds in the 4th.
    Agree with you in the call. But it didnít cost them the game as the Colts scored a TD on that drive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyBison View Post
    There is a Forum article (i don't have subscription so I can't read) where Entz said the league told him the no call was wrong. I have not seen anything publicly from the league but we don't know what they said. I've seen situations where a league stated something like "we would have supported targeting" and the coach twisted that to say the call on the field was wrong

    It's very possible the league said this should have been called. It's close but depends entirely on how you interpret the crown of the helmet. His facemask and the forehead part of the helmet is what appears to make contact. We've been told the forehead is part of the crown. What I'm not clear on is if the forehead plus part of the top is what they meant (this is how it was always given as an example) or if a hit that includes only the forehead and facemask is also sufficient for 9-1-3 targeting (initiating with crown).

    I've shared this with several college officials and the responses based entirely on the guidance they've received on the crown is different. The action the defender had of just trying to blow up a defender rather than tackle him is dangerous and part of what targeting and blindside blocks are trying to reduce. That's why I'm ok if they want this called as targeting. I'm just not 100% certain this meets the current definition. If this is targeting any tackle that includes the facemask and forehead could be targeting. Do we really want that?

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    Except it wasnít close. The defender launched himself. Lead with his helmet and struck our guy in the helmet. Thatís targeting 101 by any definition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buthockey View Post
    So this lil pitch is prolly illegal too eh
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnb1gnotLr8
    It's hard to tell with the poor video quality, but it appears that the ball travels parallel or mabye a little bit backwards on that pass.
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    Anyone got a link to the crypt-keepers post game presser for this game
    I enjoy the opponent’s side of the post game pressers much more than Listening to Entz.
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