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    Quote Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10 View Post
    Got out of the disgusting 90s, need another 50-0 shalacking to get out of the nasty 80s
    Or wins over UND and SDSU.
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    Just Win Baby.

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    Sagarin appears to be closing in on reality; new FCS top 25:

    49 South Dakota State AA = 74.26 2 0 67.59( 62) 0 0 | 0 0 | 70.70 72 | 79.03 25 | 73.13 58 MISSOURI VALLEY
    76 North Dakota State AA = 69.52 3 0 38.58( 245) 0 0 | 0 0 | 69.89 78 | 68.55 85 | 70.26 75 MISSOURI VALLEY

    80 James Madison AA = 69.08 3 0 39.13( 244) 0 0 | 0 0 | 69.93 77 | 67.04 90 | 71.49 71 COLONIAL
    89 Montana AA = 67.69 2 0 62.54( 107) 0 0 | 1 0 | 68.17 90 | 65.10 99 | 72.60 65 BIG SKY
    102 Southern Illinois AA = 65.12 2 1 49.93( 198) 0 0 | 0 1 | 66.68 94 | 62.67 108 | 66.73 87 MISSOURI VALLEY
    104 Sam Houston State AA = 64.86 2 0 45.81( 221) 0 0 | 0 0 | 65.74 100 | 62.95 107 | 66.71 88 AQ7
    105 Northern Iowa AA = 64.60 2 1 55.37( 153) 0 0 | 0 1 | 65.43 102 | 62.67 109 | 66.64 90 MISSOURI VALLEY
    111 SE Louisiana AA = 60.44 2 1 50.30( 192) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.91 110 | 57.95 124 | 62.22 108 SOUTHLAND
    112 UC Davis AA = 60.38 3 0 41.82( 235) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.20 112 | 57.76 126 | 63.99 103 BIG SKY
    113 Montana State AA = 60.30 2 1 37.98( 249) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.32 111 | 58.65 123 | 61.10 113 BIG SKY
    115 Weber State AA = 60.06 1 2 63.44( 94) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.64 113 | 59.80 117 | 58.66 120 BIG SKY
    116 Princeton AA = 59.35 1 0 34.24( 253) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.61 119 | 60.00 115 | 58.90 119 IVY LEAGUE
    118 North Dakota AA = 59.27 2 1 47.73( 213) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.96 116 | 59.38 120 | 59.03 118 MISSOURI VALLEY
    123 South Dakota AA = 57.85 2 1 47.79( 212) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.80 117 | 56.03 132 | 59.13 117 MISSOURI VALLEY

    125 Villanova AA = 57.52 3 0 35.43( 251) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.36 120 | 55.44 134 | 59.66 114 COLONIAL
    128 Missouri State AA = 56.91 1 1 65.17( 86) 0 0 | 0 1 | 57.64 123 | 55.18 135 | 58.50 121 MISSOURI VALLEY
    129 Eastern Washington AA = 56.72 3 0 51.97( 181) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.62 131 | 56.91 129 | 58.10 122 BIG SKY
    134 East Tennessee State AA = 55.61 3 0 44.33( 227) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.60 132 | 52.83 145 | 61.22 112 SOUTHERN
    135 Harvard AA = 55.27 1 0 37.36( 250) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.51 135 | 55.55 133 | 55.69 133 IVY LEAGUE
    136 Chattanooga AA = 55.11 1 2 54.94( 159) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.02 127 | 54.47 138 | 53.82 140 SOUTHERN
    137 Kennesaw State AA = 54.70 2 1 60.21( 120) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.32 136 | 54.13 139 | 56.14 129 BIG SOUTH
    139 Monmouth-NJ AA = 54.42 2 1 51.38( 183) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.80 143 | 54.93 136 | 56.23 128 BIG SOUTH
    140 Nicholls State AA = 53.98 0 2 75.41( 14) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.05 134 | 52.38 151 | 54.42 136 SOUTHLAND
    143 Incarnate Word AA = 53.11 2 1 49.94( 196) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.37 141 | 50.85 157 | 56.81 127 SOUTHLAND
    145 Stephen F. Austin AA = 52.65 2 1 40.63( 237) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.43 140 | 50.81 158 | 54.28 137 AQ7

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    Default Re: 2021 Sagarin Says

    It’s kind of interesting that SDSU has moved up to 49 on a buy week. I suppose it has to do with how Colorado St did. I think they won but not by a lot of they did. But hey, we are out of the 80s!!! Slaughter the team down stream and into the low 50s we go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 23Bison View Post
    It’s kind of interesting that SDSU has moved up to 49 on a buy week. I suppose it has to do with how Colorado St did. I think they won but not by a lot of they did. But hey, we are out of the 80s!!! Slaughter the team down stream and into the low 50s we go.
    So much of this is cross conference play improving the model.....I think the math is just now catching up that the FCS is about as good as it ever is. Top tier will continue to rise.....most interesting to me is it even realized USD is probably better than Kansas even though they barely lost to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    So much of this is cross conference play improving the model.....I think the math is just now catching up that the FCS is about as good as it ever is. Top tier will continue to rise.....most interesting to me is it even realized USD is probably better than Kansas even though they barely lost to them.
    Yeah but they barely lost on the road right? Can’t remember the score but I thought it was close enough to flip it if it were on a neutral field.

    And yeah, seeing that kind of change during a bye week *should* only happen during the beginning of the year or when enough of the underlying scoring gets tweaked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    Yeah but they barely lost on the road right? Can’t remember the score but I thought it was close enough to flip it if it were on a neutral field.

    And yeah, seeing that kind of change during a bye week *should* only happen during the beginning of the year or when enough of the underlying scoring gets tweaked.
    SDSU improved by 2.64 which caused them to shoot up 19 spots on their bye week. If Towson was able to shock San Diego State, or keep it within 2 TDs that would certainly help us. Though I don't see that happening, more likely to go the other way.

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    I think USD is very undervalued in the polls right now and Sagarin is correct on them. They pass the eye test when I watch them. Poor yotes get no respect.

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    Something is funky with SDSU’s ‘golden mean.’ They’re 25th on that metric. Only Michigan State’s ‘recent form’ ranking is a bigger outlier amongst the top 25 for each individual component of the ranking. Not saying it’s wrong just a candidate for regression. Three weeks still isn’t a ton of data.
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    Default Re: 2021 Sagarin Says

    70s are still disgusting. Things feel better in the 50s and much better in the 40s. Need to drop a 40 bomb on the dorks up north

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