2021 Sagarin Says

[MankatoBison]

Is there anyone here who DOESNT think JMU is the greatest team to ever put on football pads?

Honestly when you look at their depth chart and compare it position by position with the NFC pro bowl roster.... is there a single position where you wouldnt take JMU player instead? theyre going to have to come up with a new 6 star rating for recruits to accommodate JMU's recruiting class.

Astounding what they've been able to accomplish over the #DukesDecade and it shows with their #1 overall Sagarin rating. Shocking that JMU is only a 27pt favorite over alabama in tuscaloosa. I'm straight up picking JMU to cover that every single time. Calling the bank as we speak to pull out a mortgage on my previously paid off home.

-not purple comment from Brian Maclaughlin

[DakotaOkie]

Well, that safety yesterday cost two places on the Sagarin ratings. Down from #60 to #62.

[Hammerhead]

Well, that safety yesterday cost two places on the Sagarin ratings. Down from #60 to #62.

Don't forget about the missed extra point try that cost one or two points, depending on how you look at it.

[scottietohottie]

Don't forget about the missed extra point try that cost one or two points, depending on how you look at it.

17 > 16. Discuss.

[THEsocalledfan]

As already mentioned, NDSU slips 2 spots which is disappointing since they crushed the Sagarin prediction. Overall, Sagarin has SDSU as a pick em, with NDSU the favorite for recent games. Total points are at 37. (could be a decent over bet if you believe Cam is the real deal if books follow....)

62 North Dakota State AA = 72.88 8 0 49.66( 155) 0 0 | 0 0 | 71.76 68 | 72.71 63 | 75.56 45 MISSOURI VALLEY
66 South Dakota State AA = 71.25 6 2 54.39( 143) 0 0 | 0 0 | 73.05 61 | 70.11 70 | 69.57 68 MISSOURI VALLEY
87 Northern Iowa AA = 66.80 5 3 62.03( 107) 0 0 | 0 1 | 67.37 83 | 65.00 97 | 69.30 70 MISSOURI VALLEY
93 James Madison AA = 65.54 7 1 46.01( 178) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.90 94 | 65.32 95 | 67.07 84 COLONIAL
94 Sam Houston State AA = 65.43 7 0 45.12( 183) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.51 95 | 65.19 96 | 67.67 81 AQ7
99 Eastern Washington AA = 64.04 7 1 49.38( 157) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.21 98 | 62.73 104 | 66.22 87 BIG SKY
101 Southern Illinois AA = 63.81 6 2 55.82( 140) 0 0 | 0 1 | 63.58 103 | 63.05 102 | 65.59 90 MISSOURI VALLEY
107 Montana State AA = 61.73 7 1 41.28( 215) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.20 111 | 60.98 110 | 64.19 97 BIG SKY
109 Missouri State AA = 61.10 5 3 57.41( 132) 0 1 | 0 1 | 62.10 106 | 59.41 113 | 62.22 104 MISSOURI VALLEY
111 Montana AA = 60.61 6 2 46.76( 174) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.99 118 | 60.86 111 | 60.96 110 BIG SKY
115 South Dakota AA = 59.43 5 3 52.04( 149) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.05 117 | 57.92 119 | 60.98 109 MISSOURI VALLEY
117 Weber State AA = 59.24 4 4 54.99( 142) 0 0 | 0 1 | 60.64 114 | 57.80 121 | 58.89 116 BIG SKY
118 SE Louisiana AA = 59.14 7 1 43.74( 195) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.56 121 | 58.26 117 | 62.03 105 SOUTHLAND
119 North Dakota AA = 58.86 3 5 57.83( 130) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.90 112 | 57.56 122 | 56.76 127 MISSOURI VALLEY
122 Princeton AA = 58.15 7 0 37.73( 231) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.92 129 | 59.25 115 | 60.27 113 IVY LEAGUE
124 Sacramento State AA = 57.38 6 2 49.37( 158) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.48 131 | 57.23 124 | 61.67 106 BIG SKY
126 Chattanooga AA = 56.50 5 3 48.06( 166) 0 0 | 0 1 | 57.10 125 | 54.81 132 | 58.46 122 SOUTHERN
127 UC Davis AA = 56.30 7 1 42.21( 206) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.60 127 | 55.63 128 | 56.63 128 BIG SKY
128 Villanova AA = 56.00 6 2 43.90( 193) 0 1 | 0 1 | 57.17 124 | 54.60 134 | 56.00 133 COLONIAL
131 Kennesaw State AA = 55.23 7 1 41.92( 209) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.97 140 | 55.60 129 | 59.05 114 BIG SOUTH
134 Harvard AA = 54.40 5 2 40.29( 219) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.33 133 | 53.56 140 | 55.99 134 IVY LEAGUE
138 Incarnate Word AA = 53.48 6 2 44.47( 191) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.03 139 | 52.77 143 | 55.64 136 SOUTHLAND
139 East Tennessee State AA = 53.43 7 1 43.24( 198) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.50 146 | 53.57 139 | 56.96 126 SOUTHERN
140 Monmouth-NJ AA = 53.21 5 3 46.85( 173) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.66 136 | 52.41 146 | 53.53 141 BIG SOUTH
141 Dartmouth AA = 52.96 6 1 41.86( 210) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.47 143 | 53.05 141 | 53.36 142 IVY LEAGUE

[THEsocalledfan]

Well, no surprise that SDSU is back on top. Top 25 per Sagarin:

61 South Dakota State AA = 72.30 7 2 55.55( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 | 73.46 54 | 70.88 67 | 72.61 55 MISSOURI VALLEY
63 North Dakota State AA = 71.44 8 1 52.51( 148) 0 0 | 0 0 | 71.31 69 | 71.14 64 | 71.93 59 MISSOURI VALLEY
89 Sam Houston State AA = 66.56 8 0 43.64( 197) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.05 89 | 65.92 93 | 68.77 73 AQ7
90 James Madison AA = 66.18 8 1 44.94( 189) 0 0 | 0 0 | 65.83 92 | 65.70 95 | 67.65 77 COLONIAL
100 Northern Iowa AA = 63.98 5 4 60.42( 118) 0 0 | 0 1 | 65.40 95 | 62.59 102 | 63.58 99 MISSOURI VALLEY
102 Montana State AA = 63.12 8 1 44.05( 196) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.09 108 | 62.40 103 | 66.78 84 BIG SKY
103 Missouri State AA = 63.08 6 3 58.71( 129) 0 1 | 0 1 | 63.15 105 | 61.44 105 | 66.32 88 MISSOURI VALLEY
105 Eastern Washington AA = 62.60 7 2 50.64( 154) 0 0 | 0 0 | 63.26 104 | 61.26 106 | 63.75 98 BIG SKY
107 Southern Illinois AA = 61.77 6 3 56.64( 138) 0 0 | 0 1 | 62.54 106 | 61.00 110 | 61.36 109 MISSOURI VALLEY
110 Montana AA = 61.14 7 2 45.46( 182) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.62 115 | 61.09 108 | 61.98 106 BIG SKY
113 South Dakota AA = 60.45 6 3 51.49( 151) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.13 114 | 58.74 116 | 62.41 103 MISSOURI VALLEY
117 SE Louisiana AA = 59.06 7 2 45.93( 179) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.30 120 | 57.91 119 | 60.68 114 SOUTHLAND
119 Villanova AA = 58.70 7 2 44.61( 192) 0 0 | 0 1 | 59.78 117 | 56.61 123 | 60.59 115 COLONIAL
120 North Dakota AA = 58.35 4 5 56.06( 139) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.58 119 | 57.49 120 | 57.08 127 MISSOURI VALLEY
121 Chattanooga AA = 58.13 6 3 47.47( 165) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.19 121 | 56.14 128 | 59.82 118 SOUTHERN
127 UC Davis AA = 56.84 8 1 42.85( 202) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.49 128 | 56.20 127 | 58.65 124 BIG SKY
128 Sacramento State AA = 56.71 7 2 45.99( 177) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.78 135 | 56.47 124 | 61.24 110 BIG SKY
129 Harvard AA = 56.46 6 2 41.46( 211) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.01 129 | 55.37 132 | 59.53 119 IVY LEAGUE
130 Weber State AA = 56.42 4 5 53.96( 144) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.92 122 | 55.16 134 | 53.15 149 BIG SKY
131 Kennesaw State AA = 55.91 8 1 41.13( 213) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.81 139 | 56.05 129 | 59.91 117 BIG SOUTH
132 Dartmouth AA = 55.84 7 1 43.26( 199) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.60 136 | 55.29 133 | 59.45 121 IVY LEAGUE
133 Incarnate Word AA = 55.71 7 2 46.48( 172) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.34 131 | 54.47 137 | 58.94 122 SOUTHLAND
135 Princeton AA = 55.50 7 1 40.87( 216) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.82 134 | 56.41 126 | 54.51 144 IVY LEAGUE
138 East Tennessee State AA = 54.57 8 1 44.33( 194) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.25 145 | 54.49 136 | 59.52 120 SOUTHERN
139 Stephen F. Austin AA = 53.74 6 3 45.36( 186) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.96 137 | 51.88 148 | 56.97 129 AQ7

[bisonaudit]

If you remove the reclassifying teams the MVCF as a conference is better than the next best 11 teams left in FCS based on Sagarin’s central mean method. 58.91 v. 58.32, as well as the simple average 58.78 v. 58.64.

MVFC best nine are better than the rest of the FCS best nine today including Sam and JMU. 61.55 v. 61.19 or for simple average 61.47 v. 61.37.

[The_Sicatoka]

If you remove the reclassifying teams the MVCF as a conference is better than the next best 11 teams left in FCS based on Sagarin’s central mean method. 58.91 v. 58.32, as well as the simple average 58.78 v. 58.64.

MVFC best nine are better than the rest of the FCS best nine today including Sam and JMU. 61.55 v. 61.19 or for simple average 61.47 v. 61.37.

Take Massey (love it, hate it), make simple averages of ratings (NDSU is 7.07 today):

Top 7 MVFC: 6.51
Top 7 non MVFC FCS: 6.28
Top 7 MAC (FBS): 6.43
Top 7 SBC (FBS): 6.56

[Hammerhead]

If you remove the reclassifying teams the MVCF as a conference is better than the next best 11 teams left in FCS based on Sagarin’s central mean method. 58.91 v. 58.32, as well as the simple average 58.78 v. 58.64.

MVFC best nine are better than the rest of the FCS best nine today including Sam and JMU. 61.55 v. 61.19 or for simple average 61.47 v. 61.37.

Even the last place team in the MVFC (Youngstown State) is 34th highest FCS team in the Sagarin ratings without removing the Ivies and teams moving up.

[MankatoBison]

Even the last place team in the MVFC (Youngstown State) is 34th highest FCS team in the Sagarin ratings without removing the Ivies and teams moving up.

Its pretty pathetic how BAD you can be at football and still be in the top 34 teams in the FCS. Truly stunning how bad FCS is at football as a subdivision