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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    FYI: No in-season top 10 from the selection committee this year. Probably not a good thing. I feel like it worked better when they had a chance to fuck it up at least once and get some feedback before they locked in their mistakes.
    Which 100% happened the first year they did it. I agree firmly with Audit on this.

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    Well, oh well. Order has been restored to the universe. Hope Cam playing can drive us higher; not too happy with 60 ranking. Top 25 per Sagarin:

    60 North Dakota State AA = 72.65 7 0 50.94( 154) 0 0 | 0 0 | 71.34 70 | 72.70 60 | 75.31 49 MISSOURI VALLEY
    70 South Dakota State AA = 70.45 5 2 55.29( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.42 62 | 69.35 73 | 68.40 76 MISSOURI VALLEY
    90 Northern Iowa AA = 66.44 4 3 62.47( 109) 0 1 | 0 1 | 67.91 84 | 64.27 98 | 67.81 78 MISSOURI VALLEY

    93 Sam Houston State AA = 65.55 6 0 45.71( 192) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.75 94 | 65.24 94 | 67.66 80 AQ7
    96 James Madison AA = 65.03 6 1 47.18( 179) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.33 97 | 64.99 95 | 66.26 89 COLONIAL
    98 Southern Illinois AA = 64.81 6 1 53.34( 146) 0 0 | 0 1 | 63.85 100 | 64.26 100 | 67.95 77 MISSOURI VALLEY
    100 Eastern Washington AA = 64.03 7 1 49.45( 161) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.02 99 | 62.85 106 | 66.38 87 BIG SKY
    107 Montana AA = 62.22 5 2 49.10( 166) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.20 108 | 61.93 107 | 62.49 106 BIG SKY
    110 Montana State AA = 61.58 7 1 40.90( 221) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.88 113 | 60.94 109 | 64.25 99 BIG SKY
    112 Missouri State AA = 60.29 4 3 57.80( 132) 0 1 | 0 1 | 61.39 110 | 58.67 119 | 61.05 115 MISSOURI VALLEY
    116 Villanova AA = 59.52 6 1 43.46( 204) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.58 122 | 58.77 118 | 63.01 105 COLONIAL
    117 South Dakota AA = 59.49 5 3 52.40( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.09 118 | 58.07 121 | 60.95 116 MISSOURI VALLEY
    118 Princeton AA = 59.10 6 0 40.39( 223) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.68 130 | 60.49 111 | 61.05 114 IVY LEAGUE
    120 North Dakota AA = 58.86 3 4 56.44( 138) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.40 115 | 57.65 123 | 57.71 127 MISSOURI VALLEY
    121 SE Louisiana AA = 58.58 6 1 42.86( 211) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.12 124 | 57.67 122 | 61.26 112 SOUTHLAND
    122 Kennesaw State AA = 58.53 6 1 45.83( 191) 0 0 | 0 0 | 57.20 125 | 58.20 120 | 61.87 110 BIG SOUTH
    124 Weber State AA = 58.19 3 4 56.95( 136) 0 0 | 0 1 | 59.98 119 | 56.64 127 | 57.23 129 BIG SKY
    125 Sacramento State AA = 58.06 5 2 50.49( 158) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.81 128 | 57.44 124 | 61.92 109 BIG SKY
    126 Harvard AA = 57.39 5 1 39.50( 228) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.79 129 | 56.35 130 | 60.71 118 IVY LEAGUE
    127 Chattanooga AA = 57.01 4 3 49.21( 165) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.19 123 | 54.88 138 | 58.72 121 SOUTHERN
    130 UC Davis AA = 56.34 7 1 42.57( 213) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.47 131 | 55.81 135 | 56.76 132 BIG SKY
    137 East Tennessee State AA = 54.51 7 1 44.70( 196) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.54 141 | 54.60 139 | 58.29 123 SOUTHERN
    141 Incarnate Word AA = 53.71 5 2 46.57( 181) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.56 137 | 52.85 143 | 55.53 134 SOUTHLAND
    144 Monmouth-NJ AA = 52.05 4 3 47.87( 170) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.02 144 | 51.72 145 | 52.40 144 BIG SOUTH
    146 Dartmouth AA = 51.62 5 1 40.57( 222) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.70 145 | 52.23 144 | 49.53 162 IVY LEAGUE

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan View Post
    Well, oh well. Order has been restored to the universe. Hope Cam playing can drive us higher; not too happy with 60 ranking. Top 25 per Sagarin:

    60 North Dakota State AA = 72.65 7 0 50.94( 154) 0 0 | 0 0 | 71.34 70 | 72.70 60 | 75.31 49 MISSOURI VALLEY
    70 South Dakota State AA = 70.45 5 2 55.29( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.42 62 | 69.35 73 | 68.40 76 MISSOURI VALLEY
    90 Northern Iowa AA = 66.44 4 3 62.47( 109) 0 1 | 0 1 | 67.91 84 | 64.27 98 | 67.81 78 MISSOURI VALLEY

    93 Sam Houston State AA = 65.55 6 0 45.71( 192) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.75 94 | 65.24 94 | 67.66 80 AQ7
    96 James Madison AA = 65.03 6 1 47.18( 179) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.33 97 | 64.99 95 | 66.26 89 COLONIAL
    98 Southern Illinois AA = 64.81 6 1 53.34( 146) 0 0 | 0 1 | 63.85 100 | 64.26 100 | 67.95 77 MISSOURI VALLEY
    100 Eastern Washington AA = 64.03 7 1 49.45( 161) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.02 99 | 62.85 106 | 66.38 87 BIG SKY
    107 Montana AA = 62.22 5 2 49.10( 166) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.20 108 | 61.93 107 | 62.49 106 BIG SKY
    110 Montana State AA = 61.58 7 1 40.90( 221) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.88 113 | 60.94 109 | 64.25 99 BIG SKY
    112 Missouri State AA = 60.29 4 3 57.80( 132) 0 1 | 0 1 | 61.39 110 | 58.67 119 | 61.05 115 MISSOURI VALLEY
    116 Villanova AA = 59.52 6 1 43.46( 204) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.58 122 | 58.77 118 | 63.01 105 COLONIAL
    117 South Dakota AA = 59.49 5 3 52.40( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.09 118 | 58.07 121 | 60.95 116 MISSOURI VALLEY
    118 Princeton AA = 59.10 6 0 40.39( 223) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.68 130 | 60.49 111 | 61.05 114 IVY LEAGUE
    120 North Dakota AA = 58.86 3 4 56.44( 138) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.40 115 | 57.65 123 | 57.71 127 MISSOURI VALLEY
    121 SE Louisiana AA = 58.58 6 1 42.86( 211) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.12 124 | 57.67 122 | 61.26 112 SOUTHLAND
    122 Kennesaw State AA = 58.53 6 1 45.83( 191) 0 0 | 0 0 | 57.20 125 | 58.20 120 | 61.87 110 BIG SOUTH
    124 Weber State AA = 58.19 3 4 56.95( 136) 0 0 | 0 1 | 59.98 119 | 56.64 127 | 57.23 129 BIG SKY
    125 Sacramento State AA = 58.06 5 2 50.49( 158) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.81 128 | 57.44 124 | 61.92 109 BIG SKY
    126 Harvard AA = 57.39 5 1 39.50( 228) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.79 129 | 56.35 130 | 60.71 118 IVY LEAGUE
    127 Chattanooga AA = 57.01 4 3 49.21( 165) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.19 123 | 54.88 138 | 58.72 121 SOUTHERN
    130 UC Davis AA = 56.34 7 1 42.57( 213) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.47 131 | 55.81 135 | 56.76 132 BIG SKY
    137 East Tennessee State AA = 54.51 7 1 44.70( 196) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.54 141 | 54.60 139 | 58.29 123 SOUTHERN
    141 Incarnate Word AA = 53.71 5 2 46.57( 181) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.56 137 | 52.85 143 | 55.53 134 SOUTHLAND
    144 Monmouth-NJ AA = 52.05 4 3 47.87( 170) 0 0 | 0 0 | 52.02 144 | 51.72 145 | 52.40 144 BIG SOUTH
    146 Dartmouth AA = 51.62 5 1 40.57( 222) 0 0 | 0 0 | 51.70 145 | 52.23 144 | 49.53 162 IVY LEAGUE
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    is Longhorn on a Sagarin Diet ? no comments?
    NDSU TO FBS. PLEASE PLEASE! JAIL & EL CHAPO DONT MIX

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    Default Re: 2021 Sagarin Says

    Top 3, 4 of top 6, 5 of 10, 6 of 12, and 7 of top 14.

    Probably be lucky if 4 make the post season.
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    Default Re: 2021 Sagarin Says

    The Valley should move up, its a G5 caliber conference already. Leave UND, USD, WIU, YSU. Take WKU and MTSU from CUSA. Maybe steal NIU.
    Quote Originally Posted by runtheoption View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Top 3, 4 of top 6, 5 of 10, 6 of 12, and 7 of top 14.

    Probably be lucky if 4 make the post season.
    The Selection Committee refutes your and Sagarin's logic and substitutes their own.

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    Default Re: 2021 Sagarin Says

    Sam Houston State plays in the Western Athletic Conference which is ranked 9th in this accounting (MVFC is 1st). Interestingly the conference has an overall losing record so far this year at 13-14 (481%). With just 13 wins, SHSU accounts for almost half of the conference win with the other 5 conference teams averaging about 1 each. How is that for SOS?
    You wanta play football, any school will do; ... You wanta learn football, NDSU is for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBison View Post
    Sam Houston State plays in the Western Athletic Conference which is ranked 9th in this accounting (MVFC is 1st). Interestingly the conference has an overall losing record so far this year at 13-14 (481%). With just 13 wins, SHSU accounts for almost half of the conference win with the other 5 conference teams averaging about 1 each. How is that for SOS?
    Sagarin has their SOS @ 192 out of 258 teams. So not good at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pep Band View Post
    Sagarin has their SOS @ 192 out of 258 teams. So not good at all.
    With all this said, I do understand Sam H's argument on Sam. They are pounding folks, have real players, and are not your same old Sam Houston. At least it is rationale this time as opposed to when over ranked in the past. With that said, I think NDSU is back as long as we get quality QB play and would beat them on a neutral field by 7. I think Sagarin has that spot on.

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