Proposed 12 Team FBS Playoff

[ByeSonBusiness]

But you’re kind of making my point for me… they played in the ACC and did well… over the last 10 years, playing Michigan and USC and a couple other P5s would in no way be a better resume than playing a conference schedule with the top ACC teams. You’re right that they would likely have to change their scheduling, but it would clearly benefit them.

How the hell is that making a point for you? The thing is, they don't "play USC and Michigan and a couple other P5's." Why are you lying?

[heffray]

How the hell is that making a point for you? The thing is, they don't "play USC and Michigan and a couple other P5's." Why are you lying?

Apologies for the typo, meant to say “a couple other RANKED P5s…”

My point is that if you make your own schedule as an independent with mostly P5s, your chances of having a better strength of schedule are not as good as if you play an ACC conference schedule. NonCon scheduling is hit or miss, that’s my point.

The point you made for me is that the 1 year that Notre Dame played a full ACC schedule, they made the CFP, even when they probably shouldn’t have (we don’t have to argue that, not the point).

[MankatoBison]

Do you think Notre Dame gets into a conference, then? I would love to see them in the B1G Ten.

I think it would be cool for them to be in a conference! but staying independent all but guarantees them to be in the playoff every year. All they have to do is be in the top 6 Non conference champions and they're in.

But I've been told by Notre dame insiders that they would ONLY join the ACC, even thought the B1G is the obvious fit geographically

[ByeSonBusiness]

I think it would be cool for them to be in a conference! but staying independent all but guarantees them to be in the playoff every year. All they have to do is be in the top 6 Non conference champions and they're in.

But I've been told by Notre dame insiders that they would ONLY join the ACC, even thought the B1G is the obvious fit geographically

I don't think it guarantees they get in. But like the other big programs, any year they are good they'll get in. This is a pretty big margin of error for the big programs. Hoping it leads to more high profile P5 games.

Notre Dame isn't allowed to join anyone but the ACC per some contract.

Apologies for the typo, meant to say “a couple other RANKED P5s…”

My point is that if you make your own schedule as an independent with mostly P5s, your chances of having a better strength of schedule are not as good as if you play an ACC conference schedule. NonCon scheduling is hit or miss, that’s my point.

Once in awhile, they do have a dud schedule that could keep them out of the top 4. But on the other hand, for say...Clemson...the ACC has been hot garbage for years.

[heffray]

I don't think it guarantees they get in. But like the other big programs, any year they are good they'll get in. This is a pretty big margin of error for the big programs. Hoping it leads to more high profile P5 games.

Notre Dame isn't allowed to join anyone but the ACC per some contract.



Once in awhile, they do have a dud schedule that could keep them out of the top 4. But on the other hand, for say...Clemson...the ACC has been hot garbage for years.

But if you go undefeated in any of the P5s, I think you have a better chance in any given year than hoping your Indy schedule works out. My opinion. I could be wrong.

[MankatoBison]

Also- I've been a total asshole on here for people saying "yoU cAnT gO fBs wItHoUt a cOnFeReNcE!!!1" by saying, "no, you dont HAVE to have a conference to go FBS, it is possible to go independent". It is my opinion that if the goal is getting to a cotton bowl every 2-4 years, that this would be worth it.

BUT.......

This 12 team playoff changes everything as far as im concerned. Now that the G5 is literally guaranteed a spot, I think you are forfeiting all of the benefits of FBS by NOT being in a conference.

That being said, It makes the MAC look alot more attractive too. If youre a 0-1 loss MAC champion you have a waay higher chance of getting to the playoff than a 2 loss MWC champion etc.
MWC has a way better regular season, but damn tough to make it to the Playoff. MAC has a less entertaining regular season with a 2-3x higher chance of making the playoff just from a strength of schedule within the conference