What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

[Kevin]

Wilson has imploded and made a fool of himself while doing it...didn't see that coming...

Warning signs were all there. Decreased performance, chatter from his teammates (needing to text his manager rather than texting him directly etc), goofy instagram videos.

Seattle (and specifically Pete) look like geniuses right now. That'll probably be a top 5 pick.

[SomeBeach]

is Wentz even cleared yet? heinke stats sucked again

The only stat that matters is a W. The TEAM gets these when Heinke plays. At least historically, the team gets these more with Heinke than with Wentz. Why is this so hard to see?

[Snowgoose]

The only stat that matters is a W. The TEAM gets these when Heinke plays. At least historically, the team gets these more with Heinke than with Wentz. Why is this so hard to see?

This is team game so yes it is hard to see in some respects. Too many people focus solely on the QB for both wins and losses. If wins were all that mattered Trent Dilfer would have been given the opportunity in 2001 after he helped the Ravens win a Super Bowl, but he wasn't.

At this point they should not switch QBs and Heineke should start, but Heineke stats are not good and reality is they had line injuries early. The line still is not very good at all so it hasn't necessarily improved that much with Heineke either, but it has solidified after losing the starting center at the end of the Lions game.

I am hoping Wentz gets out of there after the season and goes and becomes a backup and gets another shot somewhere after healing up. He needs to be out of the eye of the media for a little bit cause he is still a 12-20 rated QB in this league and can succeed for a few more years somewhere with the right talent around him.

[Kevin]

If I were Wentz I'd already be calling up Ye for a collab and generate some real heel heat.

[pucknut9]

Wilson has imploded and made a fool of himself while doing it...didn't see that coming...

Could very well end up being a worse trade than the Vikings trade for Herschel Walker

[123Gobison]

Warning signs were all there. Decreased performance, chatter from his teammates (needing to text his manager rather than texting him directly etc), goofy instagram videos.

Seattle (and specifically Pete) look like geniuses right now. That'll probably be a top 5 pick.

Tip my hat to Pete Carroll that old dude bent over backwards to protect Russell Wilson in Seattle.

[GCWaters]

Could very well end up being a worse trade than the Vikings trade for Herschel Walker

I still have nightmares about that one....

[Snowgoose]

I still have nightmares about that one....

Well there is potential the Twolves made the worst trade in history trying to one up the Herschel deal.

[steelbison]

The only stat that matters is a W. The TEAM gets these when Heinke plays. At least historically, the team gets these more with Heinke than with Wentz. Why is this so hard to see?

well for starters the defense is giving up about 6 points a game less since Taylor has taken over. Plus their Oline guards/center have gotten healthy. On top of that other then the Eagle game they are playing some pretty bad teams. If you watch they are winning despite the QB play. Not because of it. Taylor has been pretty pedestrian.

[Hammerhead]

I still have nightmares about that one....

I think Walker had a kick return or maybe a run of 90+ yards with one shoe and then it was all downhill from there with the Vikings.