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Thread: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU92 View Post
    I mean yeah I wish Wentz was Brady or Rodgers or Manning. Look at who we're comparing him to here. He's not perfect, but he's still a pretty good QB and on his best day he can beat anyone.
    I wasn’t comparing him, moreso contrasting him. Until and if (big if) he understands and gets a feel for the NFL game and gets away from being way overly hyped-up, we’ll have the same discussion and posts right here. He just neither gets “it” nor has “it” to be elite. Is what it is. Maybe his coaches or handlers can talk him down a bit, or maybe they have tried and failed. I don’t know, but I know what I see. And, don’t misinterpret my posts. I would like nothing better for him but to succeed and play consistent. He tries to do too much. Nothing has changed for him. See MT Griz game for reference. Same old same old.
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    I'm saying Wentz's biggest weakness is he holds the ball for too long and the numbers aren't showing him making much improvement in that area so far this year. An incomplete pass is always better than a sack taken.
    Did you watch the game? I only saw the first half, but on several of the sacks, he wasn't even done dropping back yet and his tackles were beaten. Is he supposed to throw while he's dropping back? There was a lot of factors in that game - starting center out, they didn't seem to adjust and keep backs or TE's in to help the tackles that were getting smoked. No draws or quick passes to keep the defense honest. Last night Dallas blitzed the shit out of NY and they had some good answers to it at times. (Still lost but had at least some answers).

    9 sacks is a shit-ton and I'm sure some were his fault but his o-line got dominated.
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    I wasn’t comparing him, moreso contrasting him. Until and if (big if) he understands and gets a feel for the NFL game and gets away from being way overly hyped-up, we’ll have the same discussion and posts right here. He just neither gets “it” nor has “it” to be elite. Is what it is. Maybe his coaches or handlers can talk him down a bit, or maybe they have tried and failed. I don’t know, but I know what I see. And, don’t misinterpret my posts. I would like nothing better for him but to succeed and play consistent. He tries to do too much. Nothing has changed for him. See MT Griz game for reference. Same old same old.
    I can't imagine playing on your third team with the third OC and probably third offensive mindset in three years helps.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    I watched a replay of all nine sacks and the majority were not on Wentz. I will say, his pocket presence was not the greatest that game, and he probably could have helped his oline a little bit more on a couple plays, but there were plenty of times the Eagles D got pressure on the edge and push down the middle. There isn’t really anywhere to run on those occasions. I personally would rather see Wentz rollout a few more times. He seems better on those plays.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison Bridge Guy View Post
    Did you watch the game? I only saw the first half, but on several of the sacks, he wasn't even done dropping back yet and his tackles were beaten. Is he supposed to throw while he's dropping back? There was a lot of factors in that game - starting center out, they didn't seem to adjust and keep backs or TE's in to help the tackles that were getting smoked. No draws or quick passes to keep the defense honest. Last night Dallas blitzed the shit out of NY and they had some good answers to it at times. (Still lost but had at least some answers).

    9 sacks is a shit-ton and I'm sure some were his fault but his o-line got dominated.
    No, I didn't watch last Sundays game but I've watched him enough to know he doesn't do his o-line many favors when it comes to getting the ball out of his hands quickly. I'm sure some of those sacks were unavoidable but he has a tendency to take avoidable ones as well.

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