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Thread: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Two NDSU QB's in this lineup of potential Indianapolis hires:

    https://deadspin.com/philip-rivers-r...6441/slides/10

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenfieldBison View Post
    As of today Trey Lance is not yet old enough to belly up to a bar and order a righteous whiskey.

    Neither you nor me nor any other quasi expert is at this time able to accurately espouse his floor or ceiling.

    Sit down and STFU chapo-lakes.
    lots of angry elfs lately.
    Lance is NOT a true stand in pocket passer, he is a scrambler first, pretty sure that's been established.
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    lots of angry elfs lately.
    Lance is NOT a true stand in pocket passer, he is a scrambler first, pretty sure that's been established.
    I don't think that has been established. He's shown flashes of being a pass first qb, with good pocket presence. He's been inconsistent though which should be normal for a young qb. All in all the jury is out. Could be great, could just out. Like perry much 90% if nfl qbs
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Eagles hiring Colts OC Nick Sirianni as their head coach: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ch-sources-say

    Prior to being the Colts OC under Reich the last 3 seasons he was a QB and WR coach for the Chargers and Chiefs. On one hand it seems like a good thing for Wentz to hire an offensive/QB focused coach... on the other hand he seems pretty similar to Doug Pederson in coaching pedigree. It may not even be he envisions Wentz as his future QB... we'll just have to see.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    We're in the middle of a remarkable shift in the prototype QB body type and skillset in the NFL. The days of the predominantly pocket passer are mostly over. Today's game requires much more mobility in the position than even 5 years ago. At NDSU and during his first couple of years in the NFL, Wentz was coveted for his mobility but simultaneously chastised for putting his supposedly perfect QB metrix in harm's way by scrambling so much and extending plays. He's not considered mobile anymore in contemporary terms. The new prototype body is more like Trey's. He's compact, very strong, has a rocket launcher for an arm when needed, and the shiftiness to almost never get hit squarely by a defender. He's like a bigger Russell Wilson in that way. Some of his best long throws were when he was on the run. It looks like the ball comes out effortlessly.

    That's not to say that CW is past any MVP-type seasons in his future. The dude is amazing. He just needs to find his place again, not only in terms of the team that he plays for but also in terms of they type of player he can be with the body that he has. He needs to adjust with the game. He needs to talk to Tom Brady. That's a dude that has constantly adjusted his game to match his body, the scheme, and the talent of his surrounding players. I don't think Brady's all that bright, frankly, so if he can do it, CW certainly can.
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    And the rules for QBs and hitting them have also had a large impact on the change in skill set over time

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OrygunBison View Post
    We're in the middle of a remarkable shift in the prototype QB body type and skillset in the NFL. The days of the predominantly pocket passer are mostly over. Today's game requires much more mobility in the position than even 5 years ago.
    And yet the two QBs in the NFC Championship Game, Brady and Rodgers...are two predominant pocket passers.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DCinOK View Post
    And yet the two QBs in the NFC Championship Game, Brady and Rodgers...are two predominant pocket passers.
    All these guys are at the end of their careers though.
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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    People keep saying how the age of the pocket passer is over. Gimme a break. Mobile QBs have been a thing for decades. Elway, Young, And now Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes, the pure runners don't have success. Let me know when Jackson or RGIII win a title.

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    Default Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HandoEX View Post
    Hard to compare Wentz as a Jr and Sr with Lance as a rFr though.

    I’ll take Trey in the NFL.
    That is a fair point, at this point in his career at NDSU, Wentz really hadn't seen the field yet. However, the NFL is a tough place to get on the job training.
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